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General => News => Topic started by: marestail murderer on June 16, 2007, 05:31:13
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RAIN ...........................got a phone call last night from a fellow lottie holder............bit of a problem he said...................
as people may know...we have plots right on the side of the river.............all this recent rain has made watering unnessecery.....but last night....the river broke its banks and more or less flooded the entire site.
the main paths were at least knee high in fast flowing river water...........and most of the lower plots....mine included...were under at least three to four foot of water.
we shot up to the plots but were unable to do a great deal..............but at least my plot looked just like my neighbours..........lol...............the weeds had dissapeared at least!
got some photos and will post them later.................
hoping my shed and greenhouse are still there..........it was filling up nicely at 7 last night........and starting to pull thru like a train...............just gotta feed the babe and then me and him are off for an early morning stroll with the pushchair!
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MM, so sorry to read your news! Looks like a fresh start then. Hope your g/h and shed are still intact at least.
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Great synpathy.
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MM So sorry to hear about your plots. Hope you can salvage something
Lorna
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Hope you find something salvagable and it has receeded this morning.
Let us know...
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Poor you! Feeling for you :(
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Hi MM I'm in Doncaster too,
We had the police knock on our door about 7pm, they told us we had about half an hour before the Don broke it's banks, and said we should evacuate :-[
I wasn't going to do that, I just moved my treasures upstairs and waited,
OH, me and the dogs walked down to the river, it was inches from coming over
high tide was 10.30pm, and thank god nothing happened, but I had a bit of a restless night though.
so sorry about your plots.
I wonder how many of our veg turn out to be aquatic ! ;)
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Blimey I didn't realise its been that bad, good luck on the salvage mate, but I bet the only thing that survives is your namesake. :( ;D ;D ;D
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Oh so sorry, rescue seeds here aplenty when you are ready XXX Jeannine
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If it goes down as quickly as it rose big plants like Potatoes can survive... at least you get a free top dressing of silt... probably mixed with sewage... good crops next time!!!
:-X
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Oh no, that msu be heartbreaking. And here I was worrying about losing some seeds! The weekend forecast for Yorkshire is looking much drier (just hung the washing out!), so hopefully it will go down quickly.
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so sorry to hear about it, mm..hope you find some stuff still growing :)
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thanks folks......................cant get near yet to check the damage.............went up this afternoon but it didnt look good.............nearly all the neighbouring site is under water now..............and access to ours is via submarine!
we are aware of the risks of flooding.but it very rarly happens.....just this time weve been hit with torrential downpours and even the main drains are stuggling to cope.
as wilco said...evacuations were in progress last night........all along the river........i may have lost crops but its nothing to compare with some of the folks who loose stuff in their house!
when it all goes back to normal i wonder if the fish in the river will show prefrence for different bait.....now they are eating the produce of us lotty folk..........lol
can fish eat strawberrys?
are tench fond of turnip?
perch eating potatos?
carp devouring carrots?
and i can just imagine the dace dancing around the wifes daliahs........lol
pics below show mine and the next door plots last night!
ps............all the plots are covered in raised beds..........cant even see them!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/brunosdad/allotment/river%20in%20flood/P6150117.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/brunosdad/allotment/river%20in%20flood/P6150115.jpg)[](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/brunosdad/allotment/river%20in%20flood/P6150114.jpg)
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Oh no MM, just caught up with your news, so sorry to hear that your plot has been flooded :'( Hope you don't lose too much - it does look pretty bad though :-X :-\
Do let us all know if/what you need though, and we'll see what we can do ;)
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I do hope that it drains quickly so that you can salvage some of it. Let us know what you need and will try to help
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Aaghh! And I thought I had problems with slugs!?!
Hope the waters subside as fast as they flooded.
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Oh Mares,I am so very sorry,I feel so selfish moaning about our few inches,I am so very sorry.I had no idea it was this bad.I just want to hug you to bits and fix it for you. It seems so little to say, but you are welcome to anything I have,growing in pots or otherwise.None of my winter stuff has gone out yet I have all kind of brassicas..I don't know what to say.Sending you hugs, seeds etc, whatever you need to follow, just let me know,XXXXXXXXXXXxxxxJeannine
John just told me to add a message, if you need a cleanup crew he is able to come over and help
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Oh no, it must be heartbreaking, just want to repeat, if you need any seeds etc, just let us know.
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sending you cyber hugs (( hugs )) and hoping that the water subsides quickly.
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I hope you get to save something from that mess.
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I know how you feel; my plot was in that state three times in my first summer!
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Is there anything that we can do?
Do you need more seedlings? Seeds? a bucket to bail ?? ;D
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many many thanks for all the kind offers of help and plants..............untill the waters subside a little its hard to tell what will be salvagble.and indeed what damage has been caused.
still flooded this morning...........but we didnt have that much rain last night......but we are also rather at the mercy of things happening upstream towards sheffield and beyond............if they have it bad...we get it later!
had to laugh yesterday thou.............we were all stood there when a lady came up who took over a plot last year.............shes not been able to get up that often.and recently had the "clean it up or get off" letter from the council.
shes got till wednesday next week to comply.....lol.............weve all told her to get the council officer down on monday to see if he can show us how to get the strimmers to work underwater!
got too luck on the bright side...............were resiliant folk up there.as are most lottie folk i think....................and its not that common to be able to powerwash your allotment once in a while...................
rather makes the nemaslug i applied two weeks ago to stop the slugs and snails look fairly inafective .................and if the rabbits have any sense....theyd be hightailing it for the hills...............or......pastures greener and drier!
off to the garden centers today to cheer ourselves up...........if the rain holds.........lol
again............many thanks for your thoughts and offers of help
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Well if it's any consolation, perhaps the floodwaters will drown all the slimies....... :-\
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It is good to hear you laughing. I wondered what the slugs are doing actually, seriously I doubt they can swim,and they sure can't run,they can't live underwater,so possilby they have all drowned, ha ha XX Jeannine
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I have only just seen this and I do feel guilty for moaning about the little puddle I have on my plot compared to yours.
I do not know if this will help but it did me, when I was filling my water butt up with a bucket, I just thought to myself, I am glad this is my allotment and not my living room.
Gary
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maybe the council can help?
Your going to need somethings when the water goes like a skip to throw things away, som additional soil to try and soak up more water from the beds and maybe some wood chips for your paths.
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no probs gary.and jeannine............you gotta laugh..............why worry..............theres always next time!
cam..............thats a d**n fine idea......ill be onto them and see if we can get some help......especily for the older less able members on the site!
dant wait till they decide to send us this years bills...............due april..no sign of em yet!..................what will they be charging us for water rates i wonder....lol...........
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I'm so sorry to hear of your lottie flood. :'(
I have only a small garden, but it flooded with "waste water" 2 nights ago. Luckily my veg bed is raised and stayed 2" above the water. I waded out with leaky wellies to lift my pots to "safe ground" above the sewage water :-X
I hope that you get your lottie back from the deep soon. If not, I can offer you some watercress seeds! ;D
Best wishes. :-*
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It is good to hear you laughing. I wondered what the slugs are doing actually, seriously I doubt they can swim,and they sure can't run,they can't live underwater,so possilby they have all drowned, ha ha XX Jeannine
..that's what I thought - but it's a drastic way to get rid of slugs!
Louise
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Just seeing how your doing MM, still can't believe them floods. :( :'( ;D ;D ;D
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oh......................you know how it is kev.......................just managing to keep my head above water..........lol..................just going up there now............havent been able to get up before with work stuff!
will report back in an hour!
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:) since you havn't reported back yet MM....I take it no news is good news eh! ;)
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MM! What a disaster. :'( :'( :'(
Hope your clean up going ok. Thinking of you swimming round your plot.
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Would you believe I've been to my plot and watered today, the toms, spring onions,sweetcorn, lettuce and beetroot were looking very dry, even used the last of my water in the water butt in the garden last night. You might have to pipe some water over to me MM. ;D ;D ;D
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lol.............ok kev....................ill save you some!
flooding has now subsided................and although everything is covered in a layer of silt.............not actualy to much damage done!
strawberrys gone...............and the wife is refusing to eat any produce that has been in contact with the river................cant blame her realy but it looks ok?
this weekend will see me on a major clean up....the weeds are still growing strongly......it didnt wash those away..........
the shed floor is the cleanest ive seen it........the greenhouse took a bit of a battering.not structualy.(i built it myself so im pleased about that!)..but inside its battered toms cucs and everything that wasnt on the staging
most of the plants i planted that survived the slugs snails and rabbits seem ok
it did wipe out the area put aside this year for cutting flowers........but the slugs had already made a hefty hole in that anyway..................
ps......................sorry for the delay.........wife dragged me offf to the seaside for a few days to see relatives!
gonna be a busy weekend............but im thankfull that the damage isnt as bad as it looked at the begining of the week
still got some plots under water........and the council have been round to those still affected and asked what help they need.................so maybe those poor souls still knee deep in it will get some assistance
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Hi MM, So sorry to hear and see all the flooding on your plot. We have been flooded a few times, though not quite as bad as that. Once the water drained away we were very surprised how much survived, so I hope that is the case with you too. Hope things are not as bad as they looked. All the best, busy_lizzie :(
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How come them bloody slugs always survive, barstards. >:( :( :'(
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We too have had floods, breakins and vandals, but nowhere as bad as other a4a members, my heart goes out to you.
On our site we are putting out plants for the taking and helping wherever we can.
Since getting my lottie and joining a4a I have come across some wonderful caring people.
If everybody had the empathy and generosity of lottie holders what a wonderful place the world would be.
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lol.............ok kev....................ill save you some!
flooding has now subsided................and although everything is covered in a layer of silt.............not actualy to much damage done!
strawberrys gone...............and the wife is refusing to eat any produce that has been in contact with the river................cant blame her realy but it looks ok?
this weekend will see me on a major clean up....the weeds are still growing strongly......it didnt wash those away..........
the shed floor is the cleanest ive seen it........the greenhouse took a bit of a battering.not structualy.(i built it myself so im pleased about that!)..but inside its battered toms cucs and everything that wasnt on the staging
most of the plants i planted that survived the slugs snails and rabbits seem ok
it did wipe out the area put aside this year for cutting flowers........but the slugs had already made a hefty hole in that anyway..................
ps......................sorry for the delay.........wife dragged me offf to the seaside for a few days to see relatives!
gonna be a busy weekend............but im thankfull that the damage isnt as bad as it looked at the begining of the week
still got some plots under water........and the council have been round to those still affected and asked what help they need.................so maybe those poor souls still knee deep in it will get some assistance
Hi
You should ask the council to get some of the food tested on the plots like yours which have had the water come off it. Your wifes quite right that they may be affected by some nasty stuff.
They should also be testing the slit which might also be affected.
Camborune7
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There's probably going to be sewage in it (many areas have sewers which also carry floodwater, and vent into streams and rivers when the level gets too high), but ultraviolet and aerobic conditions should kill any nasties in a short time.
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Just caught up with your post. What a mess. Now that would make me cry. I feel so sad for you. The one where you are stood in the water was very sad. Ah bless. Lets hope you can recover the land soon
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Asking for the council to test might be a double edged sword - they could turn round and say the land is contaminated and no longer fit for allotments.......
Good luck with the clean-up MM
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hi all................
the plots gone!
the whole area is now a lake...............we cant get too our plot but from what i can see of the plots we can get too..........i dont hold much hope!
the plots at the entrance to our site are three to four foot underwater.........and guess what!
our plot is roughly three feet lower than those......so by my poor reckoning..........mine will be under 6 foot of water!
i have pics of the plots at the entrance...cant post them yet as i have to get my lead back from a mate..but will do so asap.
bentley area of donny got the worst...as you have all no doubt seen on the news............about 4 miles from me......but it brought home the seriousness when i stood in the garden watching the chinook helicopters flying back and forth with massive loads of sandbags and big flood defence barriers.
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Taht is heartbreaking, MM.Don't know what else to say, really. :'(
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I can only imagine how you feel.......how terrible. :'(
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Hi Marestail, you have been in my thoughts so much, I am so sorry to hear that you have had to get this so bad too. There is nothing I can say to you, I truly do know what you are feeling. If it helps after about a week a sort of sad but realistic acceptance kicks in. We are just thinking about next year.Take care, Jeannine.
PS, I can't remember,but if you had anything from me, it will be there for you for next year too XX Jeannine
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Hi both of you, I was over my lottie yesterday trying to imagine what it feels like your end I don't think I can comprehend how bad it is. The only thing is lotties can be started again next season, but how long does it take to recover from your house and possesions being flooded ,hope you and anyone else on here are safe and well.
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Have been on a weeks holiday so i missed all the fun but went up the plot earlier on and I have a goldfish swimming around my onions in a foot of water,
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MM, I am so sorry to read the worsening news. We're thinking of you here in our house.(not that that helps much :()
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its bad...................
i wasnt wrong in saying theyd be 6 foot of water over the plots..............im about 5 10......and the water...........as seen in the pics...............left a high water mark at about my shoulder level.
managed to get onto the plot today.................
what a bloody mess!
i think my 45 gallon water but.........steel...............is three alottments down............the shed greenhouse and main structures all held up............unlike some on the plots..........but the inside of the greenhouse looks bad...........theres even a plantpot in the top of a tomato plant.............5 foot above the ground!
all my potted daliahs are gone.................as are the lillies...........probebly find them further afeild.....but its the smell and the gooey sticky mud that get you...its covered everything.........................
although the rabbits were a nusance.........its still sad to see them all dead.............and by the smell...i think theres a dead fox nearby.........
got a load of pics................gonna try linking to the album to save putting them all on here!
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hope this works
http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/brunosdad/allotment/flooded/
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That's horrible.
Hard luck.
Don't really know what else to say, other than start looking forward to next year?
Sand x
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Hello
Speechless what a mess you don't realise the true impact of the damage :o, i hope you can salvage your plot for next year.
Cheers
Brogusblue
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ouch MM thats bad really bad!!!
If there is anything we can to to help please let us know!!
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Completely stunned by your photos MM........
I hadn't thought of the impact on local wildlife too, that slime over everything looks horrendous. Don't know what to say really, I hope there is something good to come out of all this ... :'(
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If it's any encouragement, our site was seriously flooded down here in East Sussex in October 2000, and was back to normal by the next year. The man whose plot was most deeply flooded is now the most fertile (wonder why.....we have a nearby sewage plant, but no-one became ill). I had only just received mine and started digging, so did not really lose anything.
I was amazed, the next spring, starting to dig again, at how dry it had become so quickly. Very best of luck with flooded plots, everyone out there.