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Title: Ladybirds
Post by: Bun on May 26, 2005, 22:45:53
I have seen several ladybirds around my garden that are perched over what looks like a cocoon of a smaller ladybird. The LB's stay there for days & flinch when you move near them.
What's going on?
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: teresa on May 26, 2005, 23:29:00
Oh sounds interesting keep us informed.
One came in today on OH shirt he must have thought I was mental made him stand still while I scooped it up to send it outside not the normal red ones a black one but it did not bite so I was quite happy.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: smartie on May 27, 2005, 09:50:20
Ah I love ladybirds, they have to be my favourite insect!
I've never been quite sure where they stand in relation to my crop though, will they eat all my lovely veg or can I leave them alone to live happily ever after if I see any around? Probably a stupid question, but worth making sure....!
Also, I've heard that some bite and are mildly poisonous to hold/touch. Does anyone know if this is true?  ???
Thanks
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: westsussexlottie on May 27, 2005, 10:11:58
Ladybirds are a gardeners friend as they eat aphids, blackfly etc. if you have them you are lucky - encourage them by providing plants they like and nesting ladybird boxes.

There are some nasties which have similarities to ladybirds such as harlequin beetle and lily beetle (do a search here for more information on this so you can spot them).
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: BAGGY on May 27, 2005, 10:34:00
Ladybirds definitely do bite!  I got munched on the plot a year or so ago right on my exposed belly  :(  It was like someone holding a lit cigarette on your skin so I flicked it off and it fell down my shorts.  You have never seen me move so fast  ;D  I still have a mark where I was viciously attacked.  It must be because I am such a delicate little princess (yeah right !)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kenkew on May 27, 2005, 11:19:32
Must have been a love bite.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: bunnycat on May 27, 2005, 11:27:24
I was bitten on the inside of my elbow by a ladybird, when I was a kid :o As Baggy said, it's like a burning sensation.
I hadn't known they bit until then, so it was a bit of a shock! LOL!
Hasn't put me off them, though. I still love them and do everything I can to keep them in the garden.
I've seen a couple this year, which I'm really pleased about ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: smartie on May 27, 2005, 16:20:15
wow! I had no idea cute little ladybirds could be so mean. Perhaps these were the other species that westsussexlottie mentioned?
I remember one year when I was a child we were absolutely swarmed with them and I'm not exaggerating at all when I say our whole front garden had a red coating over it - think I did well not to get bitten by the sounds of it!
Good news that I don't have to worry about them on my veg though, thanks for that!  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: redimp on May 27, 2005, 16:47:18
Think that was the late seventies - I was a child and I was cruel to them  :-[ - if only I knew what I know now.

PS I Love

Bumble Bees
Ladybirds
Hover Flies
Ground Beetles
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 27, 2005, 19:18:48
i had a summer job at findus in grimsby-1976 it was-the year of the ladybird...we had to throw lorry loads of peas away as they were red with ladybirds..the whole factory was swamped with them-and they did bite!! :o
i have been breeding ladybirds  for the past few weeks but something has gone wrong i think-they arent coming out of their pupa stage... :'( :'( :'(
it was a kit that a kind friend bought me as a moving in prezzie...she knows i love ladybirds-i also collect ladybird stuff-no end of mugs and things! ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 27, 2005, 20:40:33
I remember that too being the old codger that i am ;D

We were in Great Yarmouth on our holidays and  even the pavements were filled with them, as you walked you could hear this crunching sound and my mum kept on making us clean them off our shoes.

How do i word this  :-\  How does the kit work kitty?  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Bun on May 27, 2005, 21:21:36
So.................. erm.................*cough*...............ah.............. does anyone know the answer to my question or has this thread turned into the AGM of The Ladybird Appreciation Society!  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 27, 2005, 22:00:18
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I have seen several ladybirds around my garden that are perched over what looks like a cocoon of a smaller ladybird. The LB's stay there for days & flinch when you move near them.
What's going on?
well..to answer your original question bun...the bigger ladybirds are known as 'bullybirds'they wait until the smaller ladybirds aren't looking then rush in and pinch things from their larder.
the small ones flich because i suspect you are wearing red and black and they think you are one big mother of a ladybird and act accordingly.





actually i dont know.did you guess?


honey-you get a biggish cardboard box weith a seethru tupperware type box,inside-when the temp warms up-you send off the enclosed postcard and 'they' send youa small box full of ;itt;e wiggly things.
in the tupperware box is a concertina shaped piece of paper and you tip the smaller box of wiggly things onto it-with these were 8 phials of frozen pollen and sugar(you keep these in the freezer..so in effect they are noshing pollen lollies-yum!)every otherday you tip a phial of food on the concertina and close the lid-they all scurry around munching and sleeping...then when the food runs out-by now they are quite large torpedo shaped wigglers,black with 4 orange spots on their backs.....
then when the food wends..they sleep and lo!they pupate into beautiful ladtbirds...and you set them free...
except mine seem to be stuck at the pupate stage.....i dont really know what to do-i did everything by the book... :'(
i'll probably have to keep them forever and ever as i'd have nightmaeres if i {{{shuddr}}}threw them away and they were ALIVE!!!!!!!!!but dormant...it would be like a hammer horror-
then the sequel..
Revenge of the Killer  Ladybirds..
see kitty being eaten alive!!!!!!!!
see kitty squirm!!!!!

so....there you have it..
glad you asked huh?????? ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 27, 2005, 23:54:11
??? I'm sure that I have read somewhere that ladybirds do not bite, they have a strong grip that feels like a nip more than a bite and your gut reaction is to flick the little buggers off. I seem to remember years ago we were infested with them and peeps were very weary of them as they felt the nip on their skin. Was it around 1987 does anyone recall? ???
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 28, 2005, 08:29:56
pay attentin that man :-* ;)i refer youto me post furthur back roy-1976 it was-felt like the little berhoogers bit anyway! ;)
PLUS!!!!!!!!
ladybird update--checked them this morning-100%success!they have all pupated into ladybirds!
*kitty does happy dance!*
wooghooooo!
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 28, 2005, 08:42:41
 :o Oops! knuckles wrapped :o sorry Miss ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: lorna on May 28, 2005, 08:45:46
Bun.. so.....erm......etc THAT made me laugh..My son is always nagging me (big bully) by saying "keep to the point Mum" Looking at the replies to your question seems others are guilty of same :) Sorry can't answer your question but yes the ladybird invasion was about 1976. Lorna.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 28, 2005, 08:48:17
roy!
i do sound like a bossy g*t dont i? ;D ;)
thats prolly cos i am!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
ay.....1976.......seems like yesterday!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 28, 2005, 18:32:45
Thanks for the info about the kit Kitty  ;D
And yes i am glad i asked  ;D

And yes, 1976 *goes into dreamy state*  ;D


Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 28, 2005, 19:26:29
wiggly lines going upwards.1976...1976...1   9   7   6. . . .

mamma mia..december '63..don't go breakin my heart...combine 'arvester...you to me are everything...

save all your kisses for me.oo-er!...praps not!

eeeee!them wer't days!!!!!! ;D
they dont write tunes like that anymore -its all bangin; and crashin'-i likes a proper tune i do! 8) ;)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 28, 2005, 19:36:34
And not forgetting all of those lovely teenage boys that caught my eye at the time  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 28, 2005, 19:43:34
god yes...
*sigh*
i've still got the teenage boy that caught my eye...once he caught it,i stopped throwing it at the other lads!

we're still together after 30-odd years...saving two other people i always say! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 28, 2005, 21:04:03
Awwwww from ladybirds to lovebirds all in one thread  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 28, 2005, 22:36:35
OK ::) so I think it may have been 1976 but anyway whilst up the lottie today I did a little weeding around the lettuce patch and spotted a ladybird ;D then carried on weeding and spotted two more how pleased was I? (or I was) then carried on even more as you do, then spotted two more :-[ :-X but they were togevver :-[ :-X so I quietly left the patch hoping they never noticed me 8) ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 29, 2005, 09:16:28
It was 1976 when the ladybirds went mad; that was the year we had six weeks without rain, and day after day over 80. They hibernated in their thousands and there were still masses the following spring.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 29, 2005, 09:20:45
The year of the drought, i remember we used to get up in the mornings and find a dead bird in the garden almost every day :'(

That was also the year that i got sunstroke  ::)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 29, 2005, 12:11:46
soooooooo.....you found the dead bird i brought you everymorning ?
and what did you do you ingrate?
threw it in the bin!
thats why i dont bring you dead birds anymore! ;)
roy!
that was kind of you!
they do need privacy to...speed date..... ;D
1976-hot hot hot!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on May 29, 2005, 12:16:01
Sorry to interept the remernisings but was it one of those foreign ladybirds eating one of the natives? or maybe they were just mating?...I want to know what was going on now....err we also had plagues of greenfly one year...can't remember exactly when, think it was the 80's too.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 29, 2005, 12:17:28
val......i shalltake you on one side and explain the difference between being eaten alive and mating..... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on May 29, 2005, 14:11:39
..Well after all these years, I didn't know there was a difference.....still you live and learn...maybe its just the blokes I've met.. ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 29, 2005, 15:48:39
There is nothing to add to that

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: bunnycat on May 29, 2005, 16:10:42
Not even from me, and that's saying something :o
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on May 29, 2005, 17:44:39
No thats what I've been saying for years.....
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 29, 2005, 18:59:17
......dont let bitterness creep in girls..... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 29, 2005, 23:39:17
;D lets put it this way Val the one behind appeared to be pushing the one in front :o maybe it needed uplifting ??? what would I know :-[
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on May 29, 2005, 23:56:16
I remember that too being the old codger that i am ;D

We were in Great Yarmouth on our holidays and  even the pavements were filled with them, as you walked you could hear this crunching sound and my mum kept on making us clean them off our shoes.

How do i word this  :-\  How does the kit work kitty?  ;D
#
Well I was there the week before and the greenfly had invaded then.

The ladybirds came that Saturday evening.....
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 30, 2005, 00:15:34
Ahhh so apparently there was a choice of wild life depending on which week you went then  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: kitty on May 30, 2005, 08:21:27
greenfly week was cut-price-if you paid more you got colourful ladybirds..... ;)




roy..
Quote
lets put it this way Val the one behind appeared to be pushing the one in front
think you'll find the one in front is blind and the other one is a guide ladybird......
and stop watchin 'em willya??? ::)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: RSJK on May 30, 2005, 08:34:41
I think the answer to your question maybe ......they were hibernating and just waking up, sounds daft but could be right.

R B 1976 I was market gardening and I seem to remember that it was a lot longer than 6 weeks we went without rain. Never had a suntan so good as the one I had then and knowing now what I now know about skin cancer I may have kept myself covered up more.
                                                         8) 8)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 30, 2005, 09:18:24
You could well be right; I read 'six weeks' somewhere quite recently, that was why it was in my mind. But I do remember that when I initially saw the figure I was surprised.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on May 30, 2005, 09:20:05
So Robin O.T.H. is a cheap skate then?.... ;D I wonder what you'd get for a special offer week.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on May 30, 2005, 09:31:56
Ohhhhhh hang your head in shame Robin  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Bun on June 01, 2005, 17:47:54
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I think the answer to your question maybe ......they were hibernating and just waking up, sounds daft but could be right.
I don't fink so.   :-\

This turned out to be a very entertaining thread, not quite the thread I was after, but fun none the less.  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Lady of the Land on June 01, 2005, 19:33:21
I remember 1976

We toured Scotland - normally you would expect a fair amount of rain, there was not a drop, the sun shone every day. There were some lovely views with the grass being very green. On our return to the South of England one thing was very noticable, the brown grass everywhere.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 01, 2005, 19:59:43
It was raining in Scotland, and nowhere else in the country. Maybe not so much, but enough.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on June 01, 2005, 22:49:18
I remember that too being the old codger that i am ;D

We were in Great Yarmouth on our holidays and  even the pavements were filled with them, as you walked you could hear this crunching sound and my mum kept on making us clean them off our shoes.

How do i word this  :-\  How does the kit work kitty?  ;D

I must have been there a couple of weeks before. There were masses of greenfly when I was there. It was my first time there with me mam and dad.

Life was so simple then...... :)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on June 02, 2005, 08:36:26
Hey Robin are you losing it mate? ...you've posted this once...its those senior moments...they've got to you a bit early.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: honeybee on June 02, 2005, 12:51:47
I think Robins doing a Fred Elliott, Val  ;D 

''I say"........ ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: smartie on June 02, 2005, 14:39:32
Oh no, don't mention that name - my weird mother used to fancy Fred Elliott   ???  ???  ???  :-[  ???  :o  ???
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on June 02, 2005, 17:45:06
 ;D ;D...Nothing wrong with Fred Elliot...I say there's nothing wrong......... ;)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on June 11, 2005, 23:03:17
Hey Robin are you losing it mate? ...you've posted this once...its those senior moments...they've got to you a bit early.... ;D ;D


.....hic.......
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Val on June 12, 2005, 15:57:13
 ;D ;D ;DI see you're growing elderberries for the wine then!... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: GREENWIZARD on June 16, 2005, 11:56:48
we had masses of ladybirds about 10 years ago :)
my youngest son candy~floss fell in love with them :)
when we left for playgroup each morning we had to see how many we could find before we could leave the drive & check again on our return.
my eldest son snake had a thing about foxgloves~we happily spent ages waiting for bumbees to land on their speckled landing strip :) :)
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