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Title: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: flossie on June 24, 2007, 15:31:43
A lottie neighbour - who lives in Lincoln - spotted this fellow in her back garden.  Does anyone know what sort it is please?

He was basking in the sun - between showers.  He had a blue black tongue and did not seem bothered by having his photo taken
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: asbean on June 24, 2007, 16:10:46
It doesn't look like a smooth snake (which are protected) which we have on our allotments.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Fork on June 24, 2007, 16:27:39
Whatever it is it aint from these shores thats for sure.

Could be a python of some sort but Im no expert.

This chicken wouldnt be too close anyway....LOL  :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: kenkew on June 24, 2007, 16:30:03
Me thinks it's a Plasticio-Modeel.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: flossie on June 24, 2007, 16:30:36
No, no, no - honest
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Emagggie on June 24, 2007, 16:32:35
Arrrrrggghhhhh, I'm off...................................... :o
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Suzanne on June 24, 2007, 16:55:50
I am hoping its your neighbours pet - otherwise its an escapee boa or python. You could catch it because I don't think it wil be liking the current cooler weather. The RSPCA will come and pick it up if you don't want to.  :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: flossie on June 24, 2007, 17:00:43
Thanks I will pass the info on
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Suzanne on June 24, 2007, 17:12:11
Flossie my friend just had a look at it - he thinks it is a burmese python. If it is they grow to 25ft plus and 250 pounds in weight.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: asbean on June 24, 2007, 17:14:06
!!!!! SCREAM !!!!!    :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: flossie on June 24, 2007, 17:28:42
thanks Suzanne - my friend has just left to go and look for it...

We do not think that it will survive the night in the weather. Out of interest do you know if it is poisonous?
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: cambourne7 on June 24, 2007, 18:13:52
if you get bitten sit down do not move and get someone to call 999 giving a discription of the snake

If you can get it into a box with holes in the lid preferably a dark box as snakes become less active in the cold and will be calm in the dark box.

( advice is from having watched the croc hunter diarys )

Its unlikly that the RSPCA will be able to get someone out quickly, you might also want to check with your local police office as this might be an escaped pet.

Either way i am hiding here :-)

Cambourne7
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 24, 2007, 19:25:21
It's definitely not a native snake, but I can't put a name to it.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Fork on June 24, 2007, 19:32:45
The Burmese Python is non-venomous.

If this one is a Burmese then its very young.

After much deliberation(and a long look at varois snake pictures on Google)I tend to be drawn to the Corn Snake,this is also non-venomous.

Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: asbean on June 24, 2007, 19:47:52
Whatever it is it has an evil look in its eye.  Like it could be hungry.  Or could strike at any moment  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: cambourne7 on June 24, 2007, 19:58:45
agreed it looks hungry!!

no more rabbits or feild mice on plot then :-)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: angle shades on June 24, 2007, 20:20:04
 :) snake hasn't been seen today, lottie neighbour has two cats shes worried about,

RSPCA now getting involved I think, /shades x
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Marymary on June 24, 2007, 20:35:39
What's worse a snake up a tree where you can see it or a snake you know is there somewhere but you can't see it? 

Me thinks I'd rather have it up the tree.  :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 24, 2007, 23:17:53
I'd be inclined to grab it and deliver it to either a zoo or the RSPCA. It would mean the fastest divorce in history if I took it home, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Mrs Ava on June 24, 2007, 23:22:57
How lovely.  We have a corn snake baby coming in August.  Good luck finding it - would be such a shame for it to die from the cold.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 25, 2007, 09:48:42
ERK!

 friend of mine once ran over a 5ft python in the middle of the road. She phoned the RSPCA who didn't believe her and tried to convince her it was probably a grass snake.

They came out eventually and the snake lived  ;D

Hope that one's caught soon.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: kenkew on June 25, 2007, 11:13:47
Me thinks the Corn Snake suggestion might be right.

http://www.kingsnake.com/rockymountain/RMHPages/RMHnewpage11.htm
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Barnowl on June 25, 2007, 11:46:06
But it does look very like an albino python


http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/photos/PythonCage112100.JPG (http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/photos/PythonCage112100.JPG)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: asbean on June 25, 2007, 11:49:30
 :o :o :o

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: angle shades on June 25, 2007, 12:10:46
 :)   :)  yes we had come to the python conclusion,

my friend didn't see it yesterday,

will get in touch tonight and bring you all up to date, /shades x

Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Suzanne on June 25, 2007, 17:14:17
Not sure if this helps

Corn Snake pictures @ http://www.cornsnake.co.uk/my%20snakes.htm

Burmese python pictures @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_python (the albino piccys)


Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: cambourne7 on June 25, 2007, 17:19:42
definatly its a albino python
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: SueSteve on June 25, 2007, 17:49:16
I hope you have some luck in finding it!
Dd says it isnt a corn snake as the head is too square, and she doesnt think its a albino python as its isnt yellow enough.
But cant say what it is.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: angle shades on June 25, 2007, 19:34:36
 :) I can report no sightings of snake today, which is no surprise looking at the weather / shades x
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Mossy on June 27, 2007, 14:06:37
I have been following this thread and no comments for a few days. Does this mean the snake has got shades?????

Oh no

Mossy.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: cambourne7 on June 27, 2007, 14:11:09
the snake has probably floated away :-)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 27, 2007, 15:04:06
Or swallowed her PC  ;D
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: fossil hunter on June 27, 2007, 15:24:41
I think it's Hissing Sid and the reson it has not been seen is that Batty Bat, artfull Owl, Ratty Rat and Timid Toad have got it.
Does anyone else remember that song or am I just a sad old git
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 27, 2007, 15:30:30
I remember Hissing Sid ... and I AM a sad old git  ;D

But I think you're wrong. It's more likely to be this geezer ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAr7vUJaQ9I
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Jeannine on June 27, 2007, 15:32:14
No, it's under the bed or curled up in your wellies.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 27, 2007, 15:37:23
Well it's not under MY bed ... there's no room and it would suffocate in the dust!

And it's definitely not in my wellies either ... the only things brave enough to venture in there are my feet. And nothing would want to follow them in there, believe you me!
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Fork on June 27, 2007, 15:39:41
I sent copies of the snake picture to a lady who breeds and sells snakes.

She believes the snake is a cross between a rat snake and a corn snake.

She says its defo not made of rubber! :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 27, 2007, 16:10:13
I didn't know snakes 'intermingled' with each other in a sexual sort of way Fork!

Not sure I wanted to know either ... what if cobras crossed with anacondas and all their babies crossed with ... erm ... another venomous snake breed.

WELLIES ACROSS THE WORLD WOULD BE UNSAFE  :o

RUN AWAY .... RUN AWAY ......
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Fork on June 27, 2007, 16:20:20
RUN AWAY??..........Ive already gone.......LOL ;D
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on June 27, 2007, 16:30:30
I'm 1,000 miles ahead of ya Fork  ;D
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on June 27, 2007, 16:41:40
i crossed an anaconda, a corn snake and a cobra and I got Anna Cornicobra. Result! Still cr@p at tennis tho
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: fossil hunter on June 27, 2007, 16:48:11
 ;D ;D ;D       NICE ONE.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Jeannine on June 27, 2007, 16:58:36
here  we go again, when these 2 get together, you need a comfy chair, a bag of pocorn and a lot of spare time.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: lin on June 28, 2007, 00:17:06
All I am thinking is "poor snake", hope it survives and is found by someone who is worried about them... I used to have snake pets when I was a kid and my nieces had a couple of quite big ones recently.

They are lovely, warm, gentle animals... and this is one that should be found a nice warm home... it is welcome in my house in Manchester with the cats, dog, frogs, fish and eels!!

About 15 years ago my friend Mike woke up in his Salford home, went into the kitchen to make a cuppa and spotted a pink flamingo in his back garden in the overgrown weeds... took some time to convince the police it wasn't a practical joke... had a good ending the RSPCA came for it... it had flown away from somewhere and was quite unexcited by human beans!!
Lin
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: gruesome on June 28, 2007, 22:13:09
like it thrasher ;D if the snake is found we'll give it a home :) not our home you understand !!!!!
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: SnooziSuzi on June 28, 2007, 23:00:04
from a quick google I've done it looks like a Corn snake....  http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/images/steve_ready_shed_big.jpg (http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/images/steve_ready_shed_big.jpg)

www.theconrsnake.co.uk (http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk)

HTH
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: SnooziSuzi on June 28, 2007, 23:01:32
sorry... second URL should be www.thecornsnake (http://www.thecornsnake)  Too much chardonnay tonight!!
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: SnooziSuzi on June 28, 2007, 23:02:15
3rd time lucky...  www.thecornsnake.co.uk (http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: angle shades on July 01, 2007, 17:25:26
 :) thanks for your replies :P

latest up date:

my friend hasn't seen the snake again

RSPCA says cats are safe unless snake gets in the house :o
Local pet shop says catch snake in a bucket and then we will collect it from you ::)

because of the bad weather we think snake has gone somewhere warm  to hide,

no one has reported it missing / shades x
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Hyacinth on July 01, 2007, 18:44:51
When I saw it I thought corn snake....cos that's the only one I've seen close up - a week ago when I was on hol. It was somebody's pet but I didn't get to cuddle it cos it was near to shedding its skin...apparently they get a bit iffy about being handled at that time....sort of snakes PMS. I got given the last skin it shed, tho  8)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on July 04, 2007, 18:12:35
Hasn't it been found yet?

I've been sat on a VERY high stool with knee-high wellies on for about 3 weeks now!
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: asbean on July 23, 2007, 19:37:39
I handled a corn snake this afternoon - it was a friend's son's pet.  About 5 feet long, and about 10 years old, it was really beautifully marked - especially underneath.  Quite cool to touch, and it didn't slither, it was very muscular, and I could feel the muscle movement as it moved on my hands.  It tried to go up my sleeve, which I wasn't too keen on.  A very strange experience, I wouldn't do it with any snake ( :o :o :o) but when the owner is supervising and telling you how to handle it, it felt quite safe  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: mark_h on September 07, 2007, 09:42:28
It doesn't look like a smooth snake (which are protected) which we have on our allotments.

Have I read your post right that you have Smooth snakes on your allotments? Is that in Winchester?

Cheers, Mark
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 07, 2007, 09:53:59
Snakes regularly want to go under your clothes; it's nice and warm and dark.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Trixiebelle on September 08, 2007, 13:49:08
*** THUD ***
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: lorna on September 09, 2007, 23:35:06
Trixie have only just read the last page of this thread. Are you OK? There was also a "thud" in this house couple of minutes ago, I fell off my chair laughing at you (Sorry :))
Lorna.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: antipodes on September 10, 2007, 11:17:59
I like all your posts "just catch it" !!! Coming from Australia, I can say that this would not be my first piece of advice!!! A swe have all sorts of slithery nasty things, you are told to keep well away and call the Parks and Wildlife service.
The snake is likely to hide under things, rocks, in grass - could it have gone into the compost or under a wheelie bin etc? It may have been abandoned, poor thing.
Pythons are generally non agressive, as they are constrictors but I would be cautious as it may be scared. If you are tempted to catch it, make it in the early morning when it will be groggy from the cold. Or if you spot it curled up you can put something over it (bucket etc) till help comes.
Otherwise I guess you have all seen how to catch a snake? You'll need a hessian bag or similar. hold down its neck just behind its head with something gentle like a broom or something curvy like a garden fork (don't stab him!) then grab the snake by the neck. Put the head into the bag, then still holding on, take your other hand on the outside of the bag and replace the one holding him. Then you have his head securely in the bag and both hands outside it!!! You then just have to put the rest of the body in the bag, tie it up and you can then let go of poor snakey. Yeah you do get to know all kinds of strange things when you are an Aussie! (like looking under the toilet seat before you sit on it)... But personally i wouldn't really feel up to the task...
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Lauren S on September 10, 2007, 11:46:17
Clearing the couch grass from my new lottie; out slithered what I thought was a snake. Unfortunately for everyone close by, I must have burst their ear drums. I screamed so loud I scared the entire Shaldon bird population too. I had never seen a slow worm before and all I saw was the body/tail part. About half an hour later (after calming down slightly), d**n I saw two together. This time I managed not to scream quite so loud.
Thank goodness I have finished getting rid of the long grass.

Lauren  :)
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: alienwithaview on September 10, 2007, 13:04:14
Back in March, we had a snake very similar to this one in our garden in Brighton(he didn't pose that professionally, though). It was quite happy for about a month under and around the patio, and then vanished (possibly for mating).
We couldn't get an expert's opinion on it, (they insisted on photographic evidence, but it was too dark under the bushes to get a good picture of the snake) but after scouring the web we decided our guest was a Smooth Snake (Coronella austriaca)
We moved since and here my faithful gardening companions are the toads, who are really curious (the cat hasn't spotted them yet -he tends to play quite rough with them)
There is a seriously good picture gallery of reptiles and amphibians found in Britain: www.herpetofauna.co.uk   Very helpful to identify this type of wildlife.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 10, 2007, 19:51:48
Catching snakes? I used to grab them and pick them up. Holding them down with sticks etc can result in broken bones, as the skeletons are fragile.
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: mark_h on September 12, 2007, 11:06:36
Back in March, we had a snake very similar to this one in our garden in Brighton(he didn't pose that professionally, though). It was quite happy for about a month under and around the patio, and then vanished (possibly for mating).
We couldn't get an expert's opinion on it, (they insisted on photographic evidence, but it was too dark under the bushes to get a good picture of the snake) but after scouring the web we decided our guest was a Smooth Snake (Coronella austriaca)

I think it being a Smooth Snake is highly unlikely as there are not any known sites for it anywhere near Brighton.

Mark
Title: Re: Snake in garden ID please
Post by: antipodes on September 12, 2007, 14:01:27
re robert_brenchley's comment;
Catching snakes? I used to grab them and pick them up. Holding them down with sticks etc can result in broken bones, as the skeletons are fragile.
yeah robert but in Australia the snakes are much less sociable than the ones here ha ha, i think we must account for about 4 of the world's 10 most deadliest? my sister had a carpet snake wound around the patio struts one morning (they are harmless). yuck yuck yuck. the nice wildlife man came and just picked it up and wound it round his shoulders. GULP!
but yes of course, you must be gentle as they look formidable but are much smaller than a human really.
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