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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: chriscross1966 on September 20, 2010, 01:34:45
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Both claimed to be TOndo di Padana, obviously the mum must have been a bit of a trollop....the second one might have a Galeux d'Eysines father, although shape is all wrong, the colour and the warts are right.... the first one, the only thing that seems to be coming up in my brains the word Zapalitto and I don't know if that's how it's spelt......
chrisc
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not 100% sure but it looks like a Gourd to me
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Chrissc
I doubt that Daddy was Galeuse d'Eysines in the second picture, because GdE is a cucurbita maxima. Both of yours look like cucurbita pepo and they don't 'mix' with c maxima.
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I had a look into my squash book and there is couple that look very similar to the warty one in pic...both are Pepo croup-vegeble marrow croup...Long Green Trailing and Long White Trailing.
Both are vigorous growers, long white does have larger about 6 pound 'fruit' and turn bright orange in storage. Long Green does smaller fruit but of them and should be harvested regularly.
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Chrissc
I doubt that Daddy was Galeuse d'Eysines in the second picture, because GdE is a cucurbita maxima. Both of yours look like cucurbita pepo and they don't 'mix' with c maxima.
Good point, but I thought Tondo di Padana was a maxima.... oh well..... dunno what to do with them, I guess taste the smaller one of each that I've got and if it's edible I'll try adn find a home for the bigger one.... Probably donating my bigger squashes to the local Sikh temple (assuming they run a charity kitchen, but most if not all of them seem to)
chrisc
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I think your new name should be Frankinstein - as in what the heck has been created there!!!
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.... Probably donating my bigger squashes to the local Sikh temple (assuming they run a charity kitchen, but most if not all of them seem to)
chrisc
This is what we do with all the pumpkins from our giant pumpkin competition every year. We are lucky in Birmingham that we have many Sikh temples quite nearby.
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Chriscross - I had a look at Amy Goldman's book, and she has several that are listed as "Bi-color", from the pepo family. And they have similar looks to yours. Might be worth doing a google images search :-\
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Good point, but I thought Tondo di Padana was a maxima.... oh well..... dunno what to do with them,
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I haven't grown Tonda di Padana myself, but the picture of the stem on the Franchi Seed website shows a typical cucurbita pepo stem and not a smooth, round, corky looking cucurbita maxima stem. C Pepo have a ridged, hard stems. Are the leaves prickly or smooth? Prickly leaves are also an indicator for cucurbita pepo. Have you had a chance to look at the seeds? Pepo seeds are much flatter than maxima seeds and white or cream (green for the naked seed varieties). Maxima seeds are fat and white or light brown and they have a cellophane paper covering, (although this is often removed in commercial seed packets).
I get funny squash crosses from the compost bin. I dug out the top foot of the greenhouse border this year and replaced it with the contents of the compost pile and got several rogue and crossed squash plants which I tranplanted and left to get on with it in an odd corner of the garden.
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Good point, but I thought Tondo di Padana was a maxima.... oh well..... dunno what to do with them,
I haven't grown Tonda di Padana myself, but the picture of the stem on the Franchi Seed website shows a typical cucurbita pepo stem and not a smooth, round, corky looking cucurbita maxima stem. C Pepo have a ridged, hard stems. Are the leaves prickly or smooth? Prickly leaves are also an indicator for cucurbita pepo. Have you had a chance to look at the seeds? Pepo seeds are much flatter than maxima seeds and white or cream (green for the naked seed varieties). Maxima seeds are fat and white or light brown and they have a cellophane paper covering, (although this is often removed in commercial seed packets).
I get funny squash crosses from the compost bin. I dug out the top foot of the greenhouse border this year and replaced it with the contents of the compost pile and got several rogue and crossed squash plants which I tranplanted and left to get on with it in an odd corner of the garden.
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I need to dig out my Squash book.... They're a pepo by the looks of things, the stem is a bit of a giveaway, it's definitely not a maxima, can't remember the seed though....
I guess taste the little one if it's OK then I'll donate the big ones to the temple...
chrisc
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I had a look into my squash book and there is couple that look very similar to the warty one in pic...both are Pepo croup-vegeble marrow croup...Long Green Trailing and Long White Trailing
..how's that then..some from my book... ;)[attachment=1]
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Well I think that points the spuincter of suspicion quite firmly then.... Long White Trailing it is.... any idea on the bicolour?
chrisc
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I've gone through 3 books of picks and haven't quite got a match..yet..but there is this wondeful site that 1066 posted on other thread..some 'homework for you.. ;)
http://www.kcb-samen.ch/shop/ (http://www.kcb-samen.ch/shop/)
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What ever it is, I am sure you are not desperate enough for food to eat it otherwise you would not be asking.
Squashes are poor people food, intended to fill up slaves and dirt farmers who NEEDED to be fed so that they could continue to be fed and would work for the master.
They grow quick and are excellent as a teaching tool for children and new gardeners but they have little taste and take up a lot of room which experienced growers would rather devote to other things.
Other than butternut squash which I like roasted with garlic butter and olive oil. I wont waste time and space with them.
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Squashes are poor people food... ::) ::) :-X
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Well, there are squashes and squashes!! Most of the Winter squashes that I grow are just as sweet as butternuts, and can have more taste. It just depends on the variety that you grow.
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Have you grown Crown Prince or Etampes? :-X
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they have little taste and take up a lot of room which experienced growers would rather devote to other things.
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Are you teasing us, purpleheather? This forum is full of squash maniacs! I think they're fantastic. Slices of squash grilled with salt and rosemary mmmmmm (is there a drooling emoticon?)
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Chriscross - I had a look at Amy Goldman's book, and she has several that are listed as "Bi-color", from the pepo family. And they have similar looks to yours. Might be worth doing a google images search :-\
I dug out my Goldman this evening too... Bicolour Pear, listed as an ornamental.... not good news.....
chrisc
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Squashes are poor people food... ::) ::) :-X
Obviously never had a Potimarron, or an Uchi Kuri or a few dozen other varieties.... there's a lot more to squash than butternuts and kiddies pumpkins......
chrisc
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Chriscross - I had a look at Amy Goldman's book, and she has several that are listed as "Bi-color", from the pepo family. And they have similar looks to yours. Might be worth doing a google images search :-\
I dug out my Goldman this evening too... Bicolour Pear, listed as an ornamental.... not good news.....
chrisc
The Bicolour Pear does look similar, but I've seen a picture somewhere, sometime, that reminded me exactly of your squash - but for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it, but it was a bi-colour. Will have to wait and see if the memory can whirr into action ......
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Poor person, squash mad, person with tastebuds here ;D
we had butternut squash/kestrel mash last night, can't eat mashed spud but with squash,it's brill ;D
p.s., one of our friends gave us some 'squash' that was bi coloured, tasted absolutely manky, quite spoiled the pork chops..they were gourds :)
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Poor person, squash mad, person with tastebuds here ;D
we had butternut squash/kestrel mash last night, can't eat mashed spud but with squash,it's brill ;D
p.s., one of our friends gave us some 'squash' that was bi coloured, tasted absolutely manky, quite spoiled the pork chops..they were gourds :)
The two bicolours in the chapman book (Bicolour Pear and Bicolour Spoon) are both listed as inedible. There is another one that has sort of bocoloured skin as well but it too is listed as an inedible ornamental./....
chrisc
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I know it takes all sorts, but I just can't get into the idea of inedible veg. I know there's nothing wrong with it - I grow flowers for their looks, not to eat. But ornamental cabbages and gourds ...
Maybe you can hollow out and at least store something in it?? ;D
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What ever it is, I am sure you are not desperate enough for food to eat it otherwise you would not be asking.
Squashes are poor people food, intended to fill up slaves and dirt farmers who NEEDED to be fed so that they could continue to be fed and would work for the master.
They grow quick and are excellent as a teaching tool for children and new gardeners but they have little taste and take up a lot of room which experienced growers would rather devote to other things.
Other than butternut squash which I like roasted with garlic butter and olive oil. I wont waste time and space with them.
I was feeling very cheery and happy with the world ~then I read this the above ::) ..so so negative.... but always grateful for a little bit of history!!
Right then I must get on and store my 28 +squashes and then go and stand on my favourite corner and beg for some money ::)
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I have been reading all the posts, and I am lost to say the least I did not know there were so many diffrent types.
Well all I have grown is Jack o lantern pumpkins for my grandchildren for Halloween. [never grown them before] these have grown very well, and what I need to know is can someone tell me please. if I have to harvest them now the weather is turning colder, or do I leave them to turn orange first.
Thank you I have enjoyed reading the posts ;D
June.
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nice one Bridgehouse :)
I haven't grown that variety before but usually you want to bring your pumpkins and their friends in before the 1st frost. Some people cure their pumpkins in their greenhouses, others (me!) on their window sills - there they will continue to ripen, but it may take a little while. I'm sure your grandkids will love them anyway :)
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I have been reading all the posts, and I am lost to say the least I did not know there were so many diffrent types.
Well all I have grown is Jack o lantern pumpkins for my grandchildren for Halloween. [never grown them before] these have grown very well, and what I need to know is can someone tell me please. if I have to harvest them now the weather is turning colder, or do I leave them to turn orange first.
Thank you I have enjoyed reading the posts ;D
June.
Until you're forecast frost they might as well stay out, though I'd make sure they're up off the dirt (use a paving slab or something) cos the slugs get interested in them. When you do cut them they'll appreciate a sunny wiondow sill to help ripen off. If they're already orange then I'd harvest them and get them indoors now, we're hitting the pumpkin stealing season round here....
chrisc
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Thank you both, I will keep an eye on them. and on the weather forcast.
June.