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Produce => Under Glass => Topic started by: loz on February 04, 2005, 23:03:50
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Can anyone help?
I have recently been given a greenhouse (dismantled) without a base.
I was thinking of setting some new (as opposed to old and oily) sleepers in the ground and then bolting the frame to this base.
Has anyone any better ideas to stop it taking off in the wind? ???
I could set the sleepers in a concrete mix for a firmer base.
Thanks
Loz
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My first greenhouse was second hand too Loz, and we had to dismantle it.........what a job!!!!!!!
I suppose that it depends on what the conditions are like where you are going to site the greenhouse. Where I am is very windy and I have laid a brick base on to a bed of concrete and then bolted the frame to the bricks. It never moved a centimetre. Don't know what others do but I have done the same thing with all my greenhouses and never had a problem. Best of luck.
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The weight of the sleepers on their own should be enough to secure it without the need for concrete; one tip though, buy some new nuts/bolts when you re-assemble the greenhouse as the old ones are likely to shear or the threads tend to strip.
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Thanks guys
I will let you know how I get on
Loz
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I've just dismantled one - door to door it took us 5 hrs and it's not even up yet!
It had a plinth, but one side was completely rusted and we had to break the angles at the corner as the bolts were also completely rusted. Handy dad took the task of repairing and found a local fabricating unit who made 4 corners and one long side for £15. I thought that was a bargain!
I thought greenhouse just sat on the plinth, didn't think it was bolted down. Would be a good idea to see if this is possible, I guess.
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Hi
I was lucky last September when I was offered a 'free' greenhouse for the fetching...Imagine my delight to find a 12' x 8' beauty...all green with algae and moss. ;)
Two of us started at 9.30am and finished moving it at 6.30pm (three trips)
It came with decorative style breeze blocks as a base and a slab path...some of the glass had to be replaced as it was brittle.
Well its now up and ready to roll
At the same time I was given a 4' x 4' aluminium frame for a greenhouse which with a bit of juggling fitted the end of my existing 8' x 6' making it 12' x 6'
With both Crystal Palaces up and ready for planting I have found this section of the forum inspiring. There have been far too many suggestions for growing in the houses I reckon I won't have enough room already ;D
Its the start of my third season on the allotment, I had originally a half plot but took on the next door half plot last April... wish I had done all this years ago
One of these days I will discover how to put photographs on the forum...gardening I understand to a degree...computers are totally alien
Derek
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More thanks!
At least I'm not alone out there with this task.
I intend to start tomorrow (I said that yesterday, and the day b4).
The sleepers are ordered and the area is marked out, I've now got to start on the jigsaw, I'm sure there will be more bits left when I've finished.
Derek I spose Im lucky that at least the glass is fairly clean, and at least I didn't have to dismantle it like you other guys!
Loz
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Loz
The essence of my previous post was to say how various things can be picked up either cheaply or for nothing just by asking around. I would have willingly paid for the greenhouses but the owners were just too glad to get rid of them.
When the bits and pieces were at the lottie a neighbour told me not to buy any glass as he had plenty and I would be doing him a favour by using it. Another gave me a louvre window and greenhouse heater.
I am a relative newcomer to vegetable gardening (two years) still learning...often the hard way.
The thing that has totally amazed me is the friendliness and generosity of the plot holders. Being a fully paid up member of GOGB (Grumpy Old Git Brigade) I believe that the early fifties mentality still survives on allotments (You can see plenty of evidence to support this on this forum) This was the period when most folk had the time and respect for other people... long may it last
Gosh I'm getting all nostalgic
Derek
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Hi Derek
Wish I had a greenhouse. :'( I'm learning how to put pics on here too. Hopefully I should post something soon. Maybe later as I'm in the midst of seed sowing (Helenium and Gazania)
Tara a bit
Wardy
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Hi Wardy
Keep looking and asking...On my travels during work I come across a lot of redundant greenhouses just sitting in gardens...people are often too lazy to advertise them.
My onion sets are going in seed trays this weekend plus a few flowers and maybe tomatoes
'Tara a bit'...that sounds like the area between Wolverhampton and Stafford ;)
Derek
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Onion sets in seed trays, Derek?
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Derek :)
Derbyshire actually. I don't think the phrase is local but imported in the dim and distant past. We are a mixed bag of folk up here but all rub along nicely, especially on the allotment
Tara a bit again
Wardy
PS I've got a B & Q bag of onion sets in my car where they've been for the past week - no greenhouse or shed so I have to use every available space!
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Yes KK
I know it sounds strange but I am reliably (Hopefully) informed that if you put your sets in trays with some compost the roots generated will stop the birds from lifting them when finally planted out.
In for a penny in for a pound...I'll try anything once
Derek
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Hi
This is my first attempt at pictures...if it works it will be a miracle as I am not sure how I've done it.
Hopefully you will be able to see my two, rather frosty, greenhouses
Derek
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/Wigston/Frosty27.jpg)
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Cool greenhouses! (or very ffffrosty)
Onion sets in a seed tray - good idea, I have done mine in the past in modules and then into pots before planting out, extends the growing season. Works well with garlic especially.
Keep up with the nostalgia, too many people nowadays are too wrapped up in themselves, I think gardeners are amongst the most giving of all sectors of society, second only to poultry keepers ;D
Loz
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(green envy smiley) love those greenhouses, Derek. wish i had room for more than one!
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kerry
There was one for sale in the Leicester Mercury on Saturday night...price was £80 but with a bit of haggling the price could come down.
Keep your eyes peeled they are often for sale in there.
I have to admit to being excited with the prospect of growing just a bit more than tomatoes and starting plants this year under glass.
I reckon another trip to the Ryton Organic Centre (between Coventry and Rugby) in a few weeks to get some inspiration is in order.... have you been along to have a look?
Derek
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hi Derek (fellow leicestershire person i see!)
until i acquire an allotment i just can't have another greenhouse unless i take over my neighbour's garden! the one i have now is 6x8, they are never big enough are they? especially as i'm going to try melons this year!
i did look in the mercury originally but ended up buying one from someone in the village for £30-only had to walk to the next road to dismantle it.
ryton-i have been a couple of times, fully intend to go again as i'm a member of the hdra. was going to potato day but had flu.
still, i see they advertise a seed swapping day soon-veggies only. tempting!!
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Hi Kerry
I am on the South side of Leicester my plot is between Oadby and Wigston.
I have been trying to get some of the allotment holders interested in a trip to Ryton...it would be nice to tour the site with like minded folk to bounce ideas around.. maybe even arrange a guided tour.
Trying to get a day which suits everyone is a nightmare
Derek
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Derek, myself towards the north west of leicestershire.
i think if there's something on at ryton we could post on the boards and see if people are going, (this happened for the potato day) we could have an a4a meet up!
it would be good to go with like minded people. as long as my relative inexperience in green matters does not show! :-[
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Hi Kerry
Excellent idea.... A Trade Forum I drift into on occassions arranged what they termed 'a sunny day out' a couple of years ago.
It was so successful they organise two each year.. many of the people who only communicated by the internet have become friends and can put faces to names... some of the equipment supliers now sponser the events so the cost is nil (apart from time and petrol)
Until 'she who must be obeyed' stated catagorically that I wasn't welcome in 'her' garden and I was to get myself an allotment I had never grown a vegetable in my life ..that was three years ago.. I have an awful lot to learn
Derek
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Dead jealous of your TWO greenhouses! I bet you'll go mad, sow far too many seeds and get overwhelmed. I do every year even though I don't have window sills or a greenhouse. Every available surface gets used - my OH goes barmy. Some day he might take the hint and buy me a greenhouse. ;D
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Hi Wardy
I am so excited myself .... you are probably right...I will have the glass thingamygigs bustin' at the seams... can't wait
Derek
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Hia i'm probably a bit too late at replying to be of any help Loz but here goes any way. Don't you know anybody with a flatback wagon take glass out and put frame straight onto back of wagon, so much easier then taking down to put back up i suppose hardest part is finding wagon .
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Thanks Northener
Unfortunately the frame is already in bits (needless top say I still haven't put it up yet)!
But thanks anyway
Wardy, you know where I'll be growing them pumpkins!
Loz
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Loz stop faffing about with your greenhouse bits and send me my Marina's ;D
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ha ha ha ;D
They're in the envelope!
In fact they are further along than the greenhouse
Loz
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Glad to hear it chuck ;D