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Title: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 01, 2013, 19:47:42
Has anybody here tempted to grow any wasabi?
Well..I have 'some' now :glasses9:.. I bought small supply of seeds, swapped some and was left with 15...and then I did bit of reading on net about he subject... :BangHead: All info is about how to grow them from roots/plants and very little about seeds. In fact one source said 'not to bother'..they are practically impossible to grow from seed as the seed don't have any dormancy, they don't tend to live very long.
Now my few little seeds felt like waste of money...but..I soaked them for a day in pond water...sowed them in multipurpose and watered them in with more pond water...AND...today I have A SEEDLING! :icon_cheers: Just one..but its better than nothing :icon_cheers:
And now the 'fun' start...there is very confusing advise around as what to do next.."they like acid soil"...."they are brassica family best grown in ph6-7"..only thing that different sources seem to agree is that they like shade..
So if anybody has grown any wasabi..and from seeds..PLEASE..I could do with some info to help with how to carry on with my seedling.
Otherwise I must put my grey cells into serious workout and start thinking of 'how nature would do it' :drunken_smilie:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: winecap on May 01, 2013, 22:14:55
This may not be very helpful. I thought about growing wasabi, but the name seemed to describe two entirely different plants - one quite like horseradish and one entirely different. Just thought I'd mention that, as that may be the cause of the differing advice on how to grow it. The one unlike horseradish, which claimed (on a US website) to be the real wasabi was the one I wanted, but I wasn't sure whether any of the seed I located here related to that, so I didn't proceed.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 02, 2013, 08:43:02
Yes, I have noticed that some are not even writing about right plant :BangHead:

There is now few sources in UK where to by plants if you were thinking having a another go.
I just have to do it now cheaper and more difficult way..for now.. :glasses9:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 02, 2013, 12:28:01
Sorry can't help with young seedling care, I started with a small cutting a few years back.

It maybe not as recommended, but I've had quite good results growing wasabi in a pot of multi-purpose compost. They don't seem to be particularly needy watering wise though I do try and remember to keep them damp, most of the time! I thought I'd lost my plants last summer. I think the problem was they were in a slightly shadier spot than usual and with all that cloudy-rainy weather it was just not bright enough, unfortunately I didn't cotton on very quickly. I lost some of my plants but those that remain are now starting to look ok, though no flowers this year and the roots look to have suffered quite a bit. I've been growing them inside a polytunnel, this year though I'll be placing them in a part sun spot rather than shady.

Although they produce a fairly leafy plant which is attractive, I've found they are quite slow to make roots and nothing of great size yet, hopefully I'll improve with their care and get better results.   The leaves and stalks also pack a fair punch so are good in a salad etc but probably best not to take too many.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 02, 2013, 13:19:16
Ok thanks :icon_cheers:..that about it 'needing acid soil' info then.. Hmm..so 'our' shady is too shady...
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 02, 2013, 14:17:44
It's a lovely plant and I've found it so much easier to grow than I thought it might be.
Some pictures, from a root transplant through to bigger plant and flowering.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 02, 2013, 14:22:10
Hmm..so 'our' shady is too shady...

Yes, I think our sunlight is not as intense for the plant, so it will take a bit more light than most describe, just my thoughts though. Although when we have our scorcher of a summer.........
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 02, 2013, 15:51:28
Wow! :icon_cheers: They are looking good!
Is it just MP compost or did you mix anything with it? Have you got trays under the pots to hold some water?
Have you used any fertilizer? Some sources say that they like 'trickle of Nitrogen' and some sulphur content will help to bring the best flavour out of the roots.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 02, 2013, 17:25:38
Thank you, pictures are from 2010.

I'm afraid my plants just get pretty much the basics. In a pot, MP compost, no tray for water, no special fertiliser - just a watering with whatever I'm feeding the toms with. Kept in poly tunnel summer and winter no extra fleece. Normally they seem to do quite well so I've not experimented with anything else.

I did think of doing a gravel bed, which I may get around to?


Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: ruud on May 25, 2013, 18:29:15
Hi goodlife sowed my wasabiseed last week in the greenhouse and today i saw a pot full of wasabiseedlings.They look almost the same as cabbageseedlings.So now step two how to raise them into adult plants.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 25, 2013, 19:40:13
Pot FULL! :tongue9: ..and I only got 1 seedling. Time will tell if mine is true wasabi..looks like turnip seedling to me... :BangHead:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: InfraDig on May 25, 2013, 21:19:55
There was something on Countryfile about this, in the last two weeks (?) I think. Growing it in Hampshire, in a similar way to watercress. Perhaps it is still on iplayer?
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: InfraDig on May 25, 2013, 21:24:27
It is still on iplayer, Hampshire, about 39 minutes in.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on March 04, 2015, 14:06:23
Goodlife and Ruud, how did your plants do? I managed to kill mine last Autumn.
I was wondering whether to trying starting some from seed?
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: ruud on March 04, 2015, 15:49:45
Mine grew and grew and than they were 15 cm tall and started to flower and died.Conclusion i did something wrong in the time of sowing or the weather did the plants flowering.I know that wenn you are sowing chinese cabbage or pakshoi to early in the season it goes into flowering.So it wasnot a big succes.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: kGarden on March 04, 2015, 17:35:57
Dunno if helpful, but there was a bit about a "farm" in the UK growing Wasabi on Countryfile a month or so back. They have a snippet on their website:

http://www.thewasabicompany.co.uk/countryfile
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 04, 2015, 17:55:20
Goodlife and Ruud, how did your plants do? I managed to kill mine last Autumn.
I was wondering whether to trying starting some from seed?

Mine did not do anything at all  :BangHead: Well, I did get some to germinate and then nothing...they were not happy with me and the seedlings didn't want to grow. So that's that.....for now. I might get my thinking cap on one day and start again with knowledge of 'what not to do'.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on March 05, 2015, 08:17:13
Sorry yours died Ruud, sounds like they got off to a flying start. Mine used to flower each spring and were ok. Perhaps it got too hot for them or sunny?
I killed mine with lack of water, could have kicked myself for being such a numpty!
GL, I wonder why they just didn't want to grow, you have a great growing sense. Hmm, tricksy things!

Thanks KG, I was looking at their website a couple of days ago and it does seem they are the people getting it right  :happy7: Good to know they can be grown well in the UK if you get the conditions right.

I think I'll have a search for some seeds and hopefully find a source, though they are sounding quite a challenge to get started and grow.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 05, 2015, 09:20:54
GL, I wonder why they just didn't want to grow, you have a great growing sense. Hmm, tricksy things!

I have a feeling that I killed them with kindness... :BangHead: Knowing that they are supposed to be difficult to grow from seed..or to grow, full stop...I might have been overly eager when tending to their needs and may have tried to force them to get on 'before they out of their nappies'  :drunken_smilie:
Any new plants I grow...I'm either overly 'motherly' and or stalking them several times a day, not leaving them alone so I can catch every little minute detail in their development.... :glasses9:
No wonder I don't have kids...they would have been seriously messed up with me.... :angel11:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on March 05, 2015, 10:26:36
Lol I know the feeling, especially with seeds and seedlings, a compulsive compost and pot watcher here!
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on March 05, 2015, 10:33:22
A slight change of direction,  I've just ordered a Wasabi plant  :icon_cheers:
I had one from http://www.poyntzfieldherbs.co.uk/ last time, they have lots of lovely things. But this time ordered from Wasabi company.
I'll still keep an eye out for some seeds though.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 05, 2015, 11:59:56
Ah? Wasabi company....! I didn't know they did plants!!!!!?  I though they only supplied the 'fresh end product'. Or it might be thinking of different company...

Good to know...I SHALL remember that for future reference... :glasses9:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: kGarden on March 05, 2015, 13:05:33
I didn't know they did plants!!!!!? 

Me neither :) Here's a link in case anyone interested:

http://www.thewasabicompany.co.uk/wasabi-plants
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 05, 2015, 13:33:59
I didn't know they did plants!!!!!? 

Me neither :) Here's a link in case anyone interested:

http://www.thewasabicompany.co.uk/wasabi-plants

OH I'm so WEAK...!!! :BangHead: Couldn't resist temptation.... :angel11:
Yeah...one plant is on its way to Goodlife's residence  :happy7: :icon_cheers: :glasses9:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: kGarden on March 05, 2015, 16:09:40
Sounds awfully like my "Couldn't afford not to have it" justification speech - used frequently to Mrs K !!
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on March 07, 2015, 09:30:35
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OH I'm so WEAK...!!! :BangHead: Couldn't resist temptation.... :angel11:
Yeah...one plant is on its way to Goodlife's residence  :happy7: :icon_cheers: :glasses9:

Not weak, think of it as a gardening decisive decision!

Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 07, 2015, 13:33:09
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OH I'm so WEAK...!!! :BangHead: Couldn't resist temptation.... :angel11:
Yeah...one plant is on its way to Goodlife's residence  :happy7: :icon_cheers: :glasses9:

Not weak, think of it as a gardening decisive decision!

Sounds awfully posh...'spitting'...just trying to say it loud..nope, tongue gets into twist with that.. :drunken_smilie:
I'll borrow what OH says when he want to buy yet another golf club...'you only live once'....
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on March 11, 2015, 08:44:17
It is here!  :toothy10: And what a nice little plant it is...planted in tiny 1.5" pot, came packed in VERY well padded box with instruction how to grow on, all very clear :glasses9:
They mention that the wasabi company owns British record of heaviest single rhizome at 377g....and if anybody can beat that they would love to hear about it and publicise the winner.
Challenge in on!  :tongue3: :icon_cheers: :angel11:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on April 28, 2015, 09:31:10
Lol, you go for it  :icon_cheers:

I meant to post too, what a lovely little plant when it arrived, in it's own pot with a hessian type wrapping. Beautifully packed in a designed for purpose little box well padded and secure. Top marks for appearance, speed and health of plant. Great growing instructions too. It would make a lovely gift!

My little plant has been growing great guns out in the polytunnel and it had one little flower stalk which was a bonus as although small the flowers are pretty. It looks to have set a few pods and I'm wondering if Wasabi seeds are tiny as the pods are really quite small, or perhaps these don't have seeds inside the pods?

 
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on April 28, 2015, 09:47:08
My plant has been living outside for 3 weeks now...though it is living in kind of cage with builders netting over it for shade and protection....and it is in quite large container...it has grown lots since I received it :drunken_smilie:
No flower buds here that I can see of.
I'm thinking of moving the planter into GH for a while...the weather is so cold and windy and the weathercast is not promising any better neither....better be safe than sorry.

It is quite possible that there is no seeds inside the early pods...maybe the flowers were stimulated enough for making pods but no proper fertilization has taken place...?
The seeds that I bought last year were slightly smaller than 'general' brassica seeds...saying that, I don't know if they were true wasabi seeds, sellers claimed they were... :icon_scratch: :dontknow:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 01, 2015, 09:19:46
Oh these would definitely be tiny brassica size seeds that is if there are any in the pods!

Have you had a nibble on a leaf yet?
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 01, 2015, 11:06:07
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Have you had a nibble on a leaf yet?

No not yet....actually the thought didn't even enter my mind, but thank you for 'reminder' :icon_cheers:
It will have to be teeny weeny nibble though....I don't dare to reduce any part of my plant quite yet. It is growing VERY strongly and I'm determined to try to grow as big as possible this year. I've even used pond mud and growing medium from pond plant...yes, emptied plant from its pot to get all that lovely smelly stuff and mixed it with loads of grit, compost and fertilizer to make super duper 'soil' for my baby wasabi  :sunny:...well, not so baby anymore :toothy10:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 01, 2015, 12:36:02
 :icon_cheers:
Well you are certainly going for it   :blob7: Good luck  :toothy10:

I'm afraid my poor wasabi is getting much more basic treatment here, I must try harder.
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: goodlife on May 01, 2015, 14:41:09
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I'm determined to try to grow as big as possible this year.

I should have added 'to try to grow IT...
Given chance...I will grow 'as big as possible' without much effort..certainly won't need pond mud for my waist line.. :drunken_smilie: :glasses9:
Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 04, 2015, 21:40:51
Lol, no don't go rubbing on pond mud, it's stinky stuff!



Title: Re: growing wasabi
Post by: Jayb on May 04, 2015, 21:44:58
Wasabi seed pods, some of them do look a little bumpy.


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