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Title: eucalyptus
Post by: ACE on March 11, 2008, 17:27:20
This is a tree on a property where I am doing some work, the wind blew it about a bit yesterday and a few small branches came down. Now when I went to clear up the debris I found that there was something that looks like seeds on one of the branches. Ever the opportunist, I gathered a few up with a view to try and propagate them.

I think I have heard somewhere that these seeds need extreme heat to get them out of their shells, so I am going to try roasting some in the oven, giving some a blast with my blowtorch and nuking some in the microwave.

Do we have anybody on this forum that have tried propagating eucalyptus, if so give me some tips, I might even have a spare bit of seed over (no promises)


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Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: tim on March 11, 2008, 17:31:24
No - but don't they grow!

Ours is onlya single stem but it has trebled its height in 2 years - to some 20'.

Love them.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Barnowl on March 11, 2008, 17:46:32
You might try just laying a piece of newspaper over the top of them and setting fire to it.  This was suggested to me by a lady at a garden centre re some other Australian seeds.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: star on March 11, 2008, 18:10:09
I think you are probably right ACE, Australian plant seed usually only germinate after fire has furnaced them.

If you get some more leaves and set fire to them, to replicate the mother tree on fire, and put the seeds among the leaves. Then use the resultant ash in the top layer of compost when you sow.

I guess that's the closest you will get to the outback! I wouldn't do it till the end of May or June though.

Good luck :D
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on March 11, 2008, 18:13:25
that's the seed capsule and not the seed. Seed is tiny. T&M used to offer a mixed eucalyptus seed mixture. I managed to get a lot to germinated, tho I can't remember if I did anything special with it, like stratify. Problem was, some were definitely gunnii, but I couldn't identify the rest

this seems to cover it

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/eucalyptus/seed.html (http://www.angelfire.com/bc/eucalyptus/seed.html)
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: ACE on March 11, 2008, 18:34:38
Well after reading all that Rhubarb, I reckon my capsules are a bit green and the seed is not ready, I will look tomorrow to see if there are any older capsules around the area. Warning to anybody thinking of doing the same. Don't put them in the microwave, the kitchen now smells like a chemists. She'll kill me when she gets home.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on March 11, 2008, 18:49:22
I was going to say it didn't look ripe, after having a look at that website. Maybe they never fully ripen in the UK. Seeds certainly germinated for me though, and that was in the early days, when I didn't have a clue
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: star on March 11, 2008, 20:16:23
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Im totally wrong...........again. (No change there then) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: ACE on March 11, 2008, 20:52:09
;D ;D ;D ;D Im totally wrong...........again. (No change there then) ;D ;D ;D ;D
No you are not, what you stated made logical sense. I shall use some of the leavemould from under the tree as compost if I find some viable seed.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: valmarg on March 11, 2008, 23:31:03
;D ;D ;D ;D Im totally wrong...........again. (No change there then) ;D ;D ;D ;D

In my case Star, it's OH telling me 'Well, its not very often your right Mrs, but you're wrong again' ???

valmarg
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: star on March 11, 2008, 23:42:49
Good luck ACE, it willl be fantastic to get some seed germinating. Keep us updated on your progress ;)

Valmarg........my OH says he's glad he married Mrs Right, he just didn't know my first name was Always ;D ;D
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Rohaise on March 12, 2008, 10:34:12
 Be careful with that blow torch ! Eucalyptus is highly volatile ...sometimes I use the bits blown down as kindling in my woodburning stove. The wood burns very fiercely indeed .   Rohaise
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: froglets on March 12, 2008, 11:15:19
I've been wondering about that Rohaise.  Our neighbour finally cut his tree down at the weekend after several branch drops left it straggly and mainly over out garden.  He gave us the wood & its outdoors seasoning at the moment, but I have wondered about the safety of putting the logs into the woodburner.  I might try it in the chiminea with a bag of sand close by!
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 12, 2008, 20:09:09
When you buy a packet of seeds of a plant that needs fire to stimulate germination, it comes with a pad impregnated with chemicals that spoof the seeds into thinking there's been a fire. You put the pad in water and soak the seeds in it. I don't know whether you can buy the pads, but apparently it's the same stuff that beekeepers use as a spray, to substitute for real smoke. I've never tried it; apparently you can't move the bees around with it, so I stick to the old Victorian type smoker. It might be worth a try for this though.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Amazin on March 12, 2008, 20:39:24
Ace, I'd happily take a couple of capsules off your hands if they're going spare.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on March 12, 2008, 20:52:28
eucalyptus seeds don't need fire to germinate, but eucalyptus trees do promote forest fires. Eucalyptus trees produce a lot of litter, they contain large amounts of flammable volatile oils, and the bark easily falls off in strips. The idea is that by encouraging the spread of fire, they knock out competing trees, with the eucalypts generally being able to take over by resprouting from the base or the lignotuber bit, which the other veg can't do, being basically dead
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: ACE on March 12, 2008, 21:13:23
Guess what I have just picked up the capsules to put in an envelope for somebody who requested some and the seeds started dropping out. I reckon they might have opened up because of the central heating.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on March 12, 2008, 21:38:17
that is clever - a plant that's adapted to central heating
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Amazin on March 12, 2008, 22:45:13
Have you met my ex?
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: Eristic on March 13, 2008, 02:10:20
I like eucalyptus.

£15 to plant it.

£150 to dig it up. £20 from the neighbors to take the wood away, and the whole afternoon down the lottie.
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: flytrapman on March 18, 2008, 15:53:14
I used to grow Australian carnivorous plants and some of these require heat to germinate. I sowed the seeds in clay pots and method 1 was to place over a barbecue as it had nearly extinguished and coolled down
Method 2 was to sprinkle some finely chopped dry grass or straw over the surface and light with a match
You can buy smoke discs which you soak in water and then water the plants as some plants require smoke rather than heat
you can also use gibberilic acid (spelling) to assist germination
Eucalyptus seeds normally germinate quite easy
You can also coppice the trees and they will regrow from the ground
Title: Re: eucalyptus
Post by: star on March 18, 2008, 17:53:59
I used to coppice mine, to keep the juvenile foliage. Looked lovely it did ;) 
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