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General => News => Topic started by: 5rod on November 21, 2007, 15:08:53

Title: how much are you paying
Post by: 5rod on November 21, 2007, 15:08:53
HI ALL
 JUST BEEN TOLD THAT ALLOTMENTS THIS YEAR ARE
GOING UP TO £20 FOR A 5ROD PLOT.IM IN WEST SUSSEX.
HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY.  IS THIS ALOT
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: RosieMcPosie on November 21, 2007, 15:23:41
well i pay 22 a year, not sure about rods but my plot is 10m by 14m ... i'm in slough.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Baccy Man on November 21, 2007, 15:35:07
not sure about rods but my plot is 10m by 14m
It is just over 5.5 rods
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: norfolklass on November 21, 2007, 15:38:11
I've got no idea abut rods either I'm afraid!
I've just paid £47 for mine, it's about 350m2
rent was 12p per m2 when I first applied (March 2005) but has gone up since, and it's due to increase again next year. we do get water included, if you're lucky enough to get a plot near a tap ::)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Baccy Man on November 21, 2007, 15:58:01
I've got no idea abut rods either I'm afraid!
I've just paid £47 for mine, it's about 350m2
It is just over 13.8 rods.
You can download a freeware unit conversion calculator HERE (http://www.calcexpert.com/download/unitconverter.exe) which should cover any measuement you will ever need to convert.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: norfolklass on November 21, 2007, 16:01:27
You can download a freeware unit conversion calculator HERE (http://www.calcexpert.com/download/unitconverter.exe) which should cover any measuement you will ever need to convert.
thanks baccyman, but I'm on a mac ::)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: saddad on November 21, 2007, 16:19:28
As treasurer I got a rent rise to £15 per plot (300sq yds)... a couple of years ago the standard rent in Derby for 300sq yds is £48 and rising so I'm going to ask for a rise to £20...
 :-X
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Kea on November 21, 2007, 16:26:49
My allotment is 45 ft x 67 ft my first year (2005/6) it was £10 last year it went up to £15 and this year they've added another 40p with no explanation.
We get troughs of water but quite a distance from my plot, I'm one of the furtherest from a water supply. They promised they were extending the water supply to the new plots (one of which is mine) when I first took up my plot and that they would move the pile of wire and other junk from the access track behind my plot but none of that's been done.
It's still a good rent though.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Slug_killer on November 21, 2007, 17:00:44
30 1/4 sq.yds   = 1 pole (P) also called a square pole   = 25.3 m2      
40 poles      = 1 rood (R)         = 1012 m2         
4 roods      = 1 acre            = 0.4 hectare



I pay £21.00 for 10 poles (30yrds *10). Water but no hosepipes, no toilet, no parking,  no waiting list, various (unwanted) wild animals, a number of (unwanted) domestic animals, as much vandalism as one can bare, unlimited slugs and a right b1tch for chairman.


Good value ?

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: theothermarg on November 21, 2007, 17:12:25
my full plot is 60' by 17' and costs £30 a year the half plot is 34' by 16' and is £15
water is by troughs and we are not allowed sheds
marg
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Lauren S on November 21, 2007, 17:26:35
My plot is 60ft by 24ft. We have water from March to November. No on site parking, but vehicle access for off loading manure and bulky items (wood etc). Shed OR greenhouse is permitted on the outside plots but not at the bottom where the houses are located. No toilets. Only half plots are allocated and some people only have a 1/4 plot and share.
Rent is £10 per year including membership to Nsalg.
I get mine free next year as it was in a very poor condition  :D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: angle shades on November 21, 2007, 17:37:44
 :)

I pay £46 for a full plot, which includes £12 for water (which i hardly use) , security is crap, water tap quite a way from my plot,

but we can have sheds,greenhouses, we are not supposed to plant fruit trees etc but we do :-X/ shades x
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on November 21, 2007, 18:12:36
Ours are very good at £13 a half plot and there is water but we can also pay for a hose pipe license of £10 a year which makes life soooooooo much easier :)
We have all sorts of equipment to use and a great shop, toilets and discounts at
T & M and a few other places so a brilliant site, no sheds allowed but that stops temptation for breaking in and security is very good ! Cant fault Brook road  ;D
We also have work partys to keep the site tidy and do any jobs that need doing, my thought is 'don't moan about it help sort it' !
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: powerspade on November 21, 2007, 18:44:34
I have two plots both 100ft x 30ft and they cost me £13.00 for the two
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: SMP1704 on November 22, 2007, 21:03:42
£50.90 for a 10 rod plot in Hounslow.  We have water tanks and deliveries of wood chips.  We also have full rights to repair the perimeter fence ::)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 22, 2007, 22:22:38
£34 for 20 rods and a hedge.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Uncle Joshua on November 23, 2007, 14:45:20
I pay £15 for mine and my tap is at the side of my gate.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: star on November 23, 2007, 14:57:08
Half a plot with water included (and on my plot) £14, can have sheds, greenhouses and fruit trees. No fires. We also have a badger sett  ::)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Trevor_D on November 23, 2007, 16:38:36
We've got a 10-pole (mine) & a 15-pole (wife's). Car park (currently being enlarged); water on or near every plot (a tank on both our plots); sheds & greenhouses allowed, plus lockers to rent (£5 a year); mowers, strimmers, etc available; as much free horse manure as you can barrow away (stables on-site); chickens, bees, etc allowed.

Fees just going up in line with inflation. Treasurer won't round up or down, so for next year we pay £22.52 for my plot & £33.78 for my wife's.

I think that's good value. And we currently have a waiting-list of one, just in case anyone's interested!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Suzanne on November 24, 2007, 15:26:29
For my first plot  which I spilt with another villager there is no charge until 2014 as it was in such a poor state when we took it on in 2004. The council agreed that if we put up a fence that would be in lieu of rent. fence materials worked out  about £6 per year. My second plot is in a different village and privately owned. It has no facilities but my plot is 11m by 15m and costs £10 per year.

I think this worked out faily well. ;D 
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Blue Bird on November 24, 2007, 18:04:32
I have half a plot and it costs me £14 per year and have water supplied but we can not keep live stock.

OAP's get these at half rent !

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: steveuk on November 24, 2007, 18:14:34
our allotments are

£10.00 for full plot
£5.00  for half plot
£2.50 for quarter
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: firstofficerspong on November 24, 2007, 19:35:26
£36 for a 12m x 5m plot...that's a quarter plot isn't it?  It's that or nothing down here  :-\
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: legendaryone on November 24, 2007, 21:06:24
We pay 8p a square meter half price for OAPs, £8 a year for water, on site parking. Shop open on sundays. Sheds, greenhouses, polytunnels and smoking huts (for smoking ham and fish etc) allowed. Livestock can also be kept, we get free deliveries of wood chippings, We can also help ourselves from the orchard which contains apples (cookers and eaters) pears, plums, blackberries and medlars, and in a couple or years we will get hazel canes from our own hazel trees  :)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Multiveg on November 24, 2007, 21:19:55
Well, according to the agreement, I will be getting 205 square metres or thereabouts for £20 a year.
Its about 40ft wide and I can't remember the length - measured. I doubt if it is 205 sq metres of growing space
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Spanner on November 27, 2007, 12:34:14
Mine is £18/year for a 5 rod plot. We've got water troughs close by and security is pretty good. Sheds and greenhouses are allowed. There is also a toilet, common tool store, shop, tea, coffee, kettle and a microwave. If you're lucky there is still drinkable milk in the fridge too.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: paulg on November 27, 2007, 17:25:26
Just got my plot 2 weeks ago in Herts. It is 12mtrs by 14 mtrs and costs £16 a year. Its a site owned by a local charity so has no facilties other than one water supply.

Paul
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: cambourne7 on November 27, 2007, 17:27:24
I have a double plot approx 40ft by 90ft and the cost is £40 (should be £80 but is subidised by the parish).

This includes water charges.

Cambourne7
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: cornykev on November 30, 2007, 18:54:08
I received my bill this morning for 2007, £54 which includes the water charge. We have basic toilets, fencing with locked gates, drive in and parking, water tanks, mine is a very short walk, wood chips delivered and sort of a shop storage place which never seems to be open. Its meant to be 225 square metres but being on the end I reckon I've been sold short, one will endeavor to look in to this further.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: VP on December 11, 2007, 15:30:00
It's 50 quid this year for a 10 rod (or lug in my allotment soc's parlance) including water (when it's not switched off for the winter). This also includes 45% off seeds from DT Brown, a couple of outings/barbecue per year and a monthly talk on a gardening or related topic. Last month's was a bloke from the Met Office.
 :-\
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: valmarg on December 11, 2007, 20:13:24
I hope you don't mind if I cry into my beer.

There are no allotments at all in this area whatsoever.

Of the rental prices quoted corneykev's is the most expensive at £54.00, which at just over £1.00 per week has got to be better value than the TV licence fee - ie, corney must get more entertainment from his lottie in a year than he would ever get from his TV.

The beauty of a lottie is that you save loads of money by growing your own, and not having to buy fruit and veg.  You have got to save much, much more than your rental by growing your own.

Sorry, but most rentals seem very low.

I just wish I could get a lottie, not quite at any price, but on a par with some of the prices quoted.

valmarg
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on December 11, 2007, 21:23:26

... We have basic toilets ...

We also have basic toilets, a hole in the ground in a vacant plot, old tyre on top with brambles growing through it.



The beauty of a lottie is that you save loads of money by growing your own.



That really depend son how much you value your time - digging, sowing, weeding, watering, pest control etc.
 - For anything I grow, its cheaper to buy it in the shops.

I only grow things that cannot be bought in the shops and also grow for quality/taste

 - The money side of things doesn't come into it.

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: valmarg on December 11, 2007, 23:03:21
pesky, would you like to rewind to the top of this thread, and read that others were whinging about the rental prices that they had to pay for their allotments.

Not being able to have an allotment, we only have our garden in which to grow fruit and veg.

If the produce is cheaper to buy in the shops, then don't bother growing your own, and accept that you may be taking in fungicides/pesticides.

The reason why we grow our own is that we know that no fungicides/pesticides have been sprayed on them, and whilst we would not be allowed to class our fruit and veg as organic, we know that they are pure and unadulterated.

Don't we all grow for quality and taste??

Where the money side comes into it is that we do not need to buy overpriced tasteless tomatoes, flat dried runner beans, dried out peas, over priced raspberries, tasteless strawberries, when we can grow our own.

valmarg



Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on December 12, 2007, 09:19:04
£20 for my plot. If you do a search - this topic was raised earlier in the year and I believe one lucky punter is paying around £100 :o :o :o
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: raisedbedted on December 12, 2007, 09:34:57
Pesky, I agree wholeheartedly.  Allotments are rarely about saving money and far more about enjoyment and quality of produce.  When Messrs Tesco can push out some tasteless veg at 0.5p a kilo because its been pumped full of cr*p then saving money is not an option.

I pay £32 per plot (10 rods) and to be honest I would like to see this doubled!!  On both sides of me are plots taken on by people who will never cultivate the full 10 rods, one has done nothing, the other has done half in 4 years.  I say double the rents then they may not be so dog in a manger about it as its the 'thing to do' and more space will be available to people who do want a plot for the right reason.

Manybe offer a discount scheme so that the longer people cultivate the plot the more discount they get? 

Thats my (overpriced) pennies worth anyway ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: RosieMcPosie on December 12, 2007, 09:42:30
Pesky, I agree wholeheartedly.  Allotments are rarely about saving money and far more about enjoyment and quality of produce.  When Messrs Tesco can push out some tasteless veg at 0.5p a kilo because its been pumped full of cr*p then saving money is not an option.


thanks for this growing to eat,(and Pesky) exactly what i wanted to say
i grow fruit and veg mainly because they taste better! also because i really enjoy spending time on my lottie- learning all the time and getting fresh air and excersise too.
will admit it's probably more expensive than buying from tesco!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on December 12, 2007, 13:58:47
I pay £32 per plot (10 rods) and to be honest I would like to see this doubled!!  On both sides of me are plots taken on by people who will never cultivate the full 10 rods, one has done nothing, the other has done half in 4 years.  I say double the rents then they may not be so dog in a manger about it as its the 'thing to do' and more space will be available to people who do want a plot for the right reason.

Obviously I don't know these individuals either side of you. But some people may not be able to cultivate full plots due to age, illness or compassionate family affairs such as homecare to a family member. It is not always necessarily going to be their fault. Though I do agree with your principle if it is just pure laziness.

I am pleased I am able to cultivate my full plot to its maximum.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: bupster on December 12, 2007, 16:50:40
About £20 for ten rods or poles or whatever - it's about 6m by 42m at any rate. Came with tumbledown shed and plum and apple trees. There's also water pumps, a store, toilet facilities, a security fence and gates, and a cherry tree for scrumping, as well as areas for site compost and woodchip etc. Also a hazel coppice and a wildlife pond. Love it.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Slug_killer on December 12, 2007, 19:52:03

... some people may not be able to cultivate full plots due to ...


... On both sides of me are plots taken on by people who will never cultivate the full 10 rods ...




Err, you forgot to mention those who have to go out and earn a living to support their family, have children to look after, which also demand to be take out to continuous Christmas parties, and shopping. Those who when not doing their 40hrs working are expected to finish installing the new kitchen, decorate the bedroom, fix the leaking tap, prune and tidy the garden, wash and clean the cars ...

Like Pesky, my time is valuable, VERY valuable.


For me, the lottie is a place where I can hide, where I can get away from the pressures of life.

If I have time to get down there  - Fine.    If I don't  - Tough - There's a whole wide world outside the allotment.

This year has not been too bad, I've been able to keep the whole plot productive and well weeded.b But since clock change, I've been down there only once.

I've still got PFAs to dig up, the garlic ain't been planted yet and neither have the broad beans, the poles for the runners are still up (if they haven't been stolen), the strawberries needmoving, the greenhouse needs clearing and cleaning, the whole plot needs digging over ...

If I spent this Saturday catching up with the lottie, instead of with the family, Christmas shopping, would that make me a better parent?

And If I don't go, should I have my lottie taken off me ?



Should parents that don't spend ALL their time looking after their children, have them taken away ?

Why should people who don't use up the whole 9 yards of their lottie have it taken from them ?


(Rant over for today)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Simon05 on December 12, 2007, 20:27:38
When I first got the plot I paid £21.50 for shares, then its £3.50 a year
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: telboy on December 12, 2007, 20:44:50
Crikey,
I must be lucky. Since I held two plots (side by side), my rent has increased from £5 to £6 in 29 yrs. for both. I don't have water (not a prob.) but I have never suffered from any vandalism. I am indeed blessed!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: raisedbedted on December 12, 2007, 22:13:37


Why should people who don't use up the whole 9 yards of their lottie have it taken from them ?


(Rant over for today)
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So you think its better for everyone to take on far more than they will ever need, depriving others who cant get a plot because youre all right and s*d everyone else.  If you dont get time then thats not your fault for having innapropriate ambitions?!.  And if your weed seeds blow over eevry one else then thats fine too?

I think we have very different view points on what is fair and just in this world!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: grawrc on December 12, 2007, 22:20:51
We had our allotment association agm very recently and things like that seemed to be a major issue.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: banshee on December 12, 2007, 23:19:49
Like Valmarg, I too do not have the pleasure of owning an allotment and have to do my growing in the garden but I'm not complaining because I simply do not have the time to dedicate to the responsibility of allotment owning or sharing. I do sympathise though for those that want more growing space but are unable to get it because of those have taken over plots for which they have no real intention of utilising to the best of their ability. I know of very few allotments close by me which are used for anything other than as dumping grounds for unwanted items, but yet as long as the rent payers continue to pay their rent then they are allowed to keep them.......its wrong in my eyes!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: bupster on December 12, 2007, 23:36:26
I think a lot of the time it's people who are busy with kids and families that need the allotments, probably more than people with lots of time on their hands who invest it in their hobbies (I have neither family nor time on my hands, so I'm the worst of both  ::)). The ideal situation is maybe what we have, where we've only had a waiting list very recently, so we're still very relaxed about plots that are getting a bit overgrown. I for one would rather watch a plot go to seed even if it set weeds all over mine, than know that someone whose husband, who'd looked after a plot for thirty years and who was sick with cancer, was also having to deal with us sending letters wanting to know if we could take their plot away because some newcomers were bored waiting.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Slug_killer on December 13, 2007, 01:45:50
So you think its better for everyone to take on far more than they will ever need, depriving others who cant get a plot because youre all right and s*d everyone else. 

Far more than they will ever need ??????   Plots come in units of ONE, I have ONE plot, ie one unit. My contract with the council strictly prohibits subletting.

I used to share, but got fed up with the arguments of who had planted/weeded/watered what. If I want arguments, I just put the children in the same room for 5 minutes - That's why I have an allotment - to get away from people who have nothing better to do than compain and argue.

depriving others who cant get a plot ???? I suggest you don't make assumptions. As you will note from my post on the first page of this thread, there is NO WAITING LIST, so perhaps you could tell me who I'm depriving.



If you dont get time then thats not your fault for having innapropriate ambitions?!. 

Yes I have ambitions, many ambitions. I'm not ready to give up the will to live just yet.
Mankind has and always will strive to do more. Without that drive, we'd all still be living in caves.
As for "inappropriate",  what's inappropriate about wanting to grow fruit and veg on a plot ?

And if your weed seeds blow over eevry one else then thats fine too?

No one on the allotment I attend has an "exhibition plot". There are weeds everywhere, fact of life. If you excluded all airborne seeds, you'll find,  that unless you sterilise the top 6 inches of topsoil, you'll be having weeds come up for a minimum of 20 years. Weed seeds have the ability to sit in the ground for a long time before thinking about germination. That's why their so successful. That's what makes them plants that we call weeds.

If you disagree with the way your plot neighbours treat their plots , write to the council. If they don't think your neighbours are being unreasonable, then you should take a big inward look at who has unreasonable ambitions.

If you want a perfect plot. Go buy your own piece of land and seal it off. If you want to use a public amenity, put up with what you've got, or find somewhere better.

In any case what makes you think my plot is badly managed, what makes you think it generates large amount of seeds that blow all over the place. Again a very bad assumption.


I think we have very different view points on what is fair and just in this world!

Life is never fair and just.
Life is not about what is fair and just.
Life, particularly in this country, is about living in harmony with others.



Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: SMP1704 on December 14, 2007, 21:08:50
I think the thread has taken a sharp right turn somewhere - but hey, that's what makes it interesting.

At our site there are 38 plots, with a current waiting list of 24 :o  A recent walk round showed that only 15 plots show signs of active cultivation.  The council currently lease the site on an annual basis from the Duke of Northumberland, so it is important there appears to be active cultivation - who knows what the future holds...........

My approach (as Secretary) has been to work with the council to divide plots up to offer half plots.  These are less daunting to newbies - clay and couch is pretty scary, so far it is working well.  An unexpected result has been that inactive plotholders have seen the level of management - fence mending, community payback team clean-up and have either been re-invigorated or have given up their tenancy and those plots have also been divided up.

Yes, some newbies have asked for a full plot, our answer at the moment is No - rather get new people in, hopefully generate more activity on site and see what happens.

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: 5rod on December 15, 2007, 11:13:35
hi  5 rod here
looks like some people should go on ANGER MANAGEMENT COURSES
subject was how much are you paying
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: grawrc on December 15, 2007, 20:32:29
TOO DAMNED MUCH!!!!!! GRRRRRRRR....  only kidding ;)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: valmarg on December 15, 2007, 21:48:44
Whilst we grow quite a bit in our back garden/greenhouse, we would just love a small lottie (please Santa).

valmarg
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: BAK on December 18, 2007, 07:25:55
5rod,

I have been monitoring annual rents recently. Including the info in this thread I have 59 samples so far - hope to get more. FYI - the story so far is that the overall average comes out at £23 for 5 rods. In the SE it is £26.

In addition, there was a survey done two years ago on this site. There were only 16 samples and the results were expressed in bands .. the average lay in £20-30 band.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,13757.msg131583.html#msg131583 (http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,13757.msg131583.html#msg131583)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: saddad on December 18, 2007, 07:34:14
10 Rods is the normal Plot in Derby and the Average was £48 two years ago.. I managed to get another rent rise past the AGM to £20 per 10 rods with effect from Oct 2008!
 ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: 5rod on December 18, 2007, 08:52:19
THANKS BAK
                  FOR YOUR INPUT ,ITS JUST NICE TO KNOW
                            ;D
I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A NICE CHRISTMAS AND A
               HAPPY NEW YAER
                           5 ROD
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Larkspur on December 18, 2007, 10:16:57
I have only just caught up with this thread. Because of the length of the waiting list to obtain plots on my site which is council owned and normally managed with indifference so that less than half the plots are currently cultivated               though they are all let,  in future only half plots will be let to increase land availability overall and to make cultivating a plot less daunting to a newcomer. I think it is a good idea idea and should improve the overall level of cultivation.
Oh and for the statistics my rent is £7 per year but that is a concessionary over 60 cost :).
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Grumpy-sod on December 19, 2007, 22:17:09
ref. Slug_killer's over-reaction... how about growing a lil old row of chill pills!

May I humbly suggest you re-read raisedbedted's original post and consider a more appropriate reply. Surely, there are too many people who take more than their fair share in this World, and its nice to think that allotment people are part of the solution... we all live as part of a community and perhaps we should remember our actions always impact others.  Personally, I would rather give up my plot than think my inability to manage all I have taken on is making other people's life difficult. 

On topic again: 10 rods, £30 odd, worth every penny too.

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on December 19, 2007, 22:46:56
Because of the increased demand for services on allotments the annual rent increase as of 1 April 2007 will be 10%. This increase is to help fund the extra costs that the Council now incurs in relation to tidying up and securing allotment sites.

As in previous years the Council will honour existing discounts that have been given to our present tenants but unfortunately all new tenancies after April 1st 2007 will be subject to the full rate for their plot.

Redcar & Cleveland Council 2007 prices per Acreage:

1/40th £12.65
1/32nd £17.60
1/27th £21.56
1/24th £23.76
1/20th £27.50
1/18th £28.49
1/17th £29.92
1/16th £31.02
1/15th £34.21
1/14th £36.30
1/13th £34.84
1/12th £40.59
1/11th £42.24
1/10th £43.78
1/9th £51.26
1/8th £58.85
1/4th £114.07

Mine is owned by the local Parish and rent is currently £20per annum. Ain't got a clue on its measurements size.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on December 30, 2007, 19:23:56
Measured my plot today. For the £20 I get an area of 10x20metres, (30x60ft).
What is this measurement in RODS or POLES???
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: valmarg on December 30, 2007, 20:08:42
Not to mention PERCHES.

valmarg
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Plot69 on December 30, 2007, 23:18:09
My plots are 17 foot by approx 100 foot, how many poles is that?

I have two and pay £27 each. Because I'm a Foster Carer for the local authority I get a concession on that price but not sure what it is as my Missus deals with it. We get very good discount on seeds and most soft fruit. Oh yeah, plus £3 per year affiliation to some national allotment society

Terms and conditions state 25% to be cultivated in first 3 months and at least 75% after first year. They do send out letters if they get neglected. And yes, I too get mildly, well, upset more than annoyed when I see plots being neglected.

We're allowed sheds, greenhouses and have plenty of water taps in every direction albeit we only supposed to use a hose for filling water butts... Yeah, Yeah!

Allowed chickens rabbits and bees but not large fruit trees. There's vehicle access all round and I bribed the council chaps with some french beans to bulldoze me parking space on the waste ground directly at the end of my plots while they were rotorvating a vacant plot.

Security is reasonably good although some bar steward nicked every bamboo cane from the site including all my new 8' ones I bought and also my bloody great pumpkin I'd nurtured and helped my foster kids grow for Halloween.

Basic toilet facilities = Bucket in the corner of the shed.

Think that just about covers it.


Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Plot69 on December 31, 2007, 13:32:35
My plots are 17 foot by approx 100 foot, how many poles is that?

I lied, they are both 17 by 165 foot. Measured them properly this morning. That makes each one exactly 10x1 poles. That's a total of 20 square poles... Is there such a thing as a square pole or is a square pole a post?

So if I walk up and down twice that's a furlong :)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: morton on January 08, 2008, 21:41:58
Being a new member to this site I did not appreciate the difference in rents around the country. It seems very much like the post code lottery with the NHS. My lottie is 80 yards by 10 yards approx for only £5.50 per year although we do pay another £2 on top to keep in the kitty for our own unforseens. The rents have not gone up for 20 years or so and yet we still get moans from some of our members.
We do not have water laid on as such although we are on relatively sandy soil and there are underground springs. I dug down the depth of a 40 gallon drum 5 years ago and set up a well on mine so now I do have water laid on in effect. Others have since followed suit.
We have to provide our own sheds so its a right old shanty town like allotments in the old days.
The allotments are church owned and we do worry what will happen if some rich developer comes calling but we soldier on.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: manicscousers on January 09, 2008, 08:56:35
Hiya, morton and welcome..wow, that's a good price, we pay 25.00 to the club, the same to our association and 10.0 membership to the club as well..but, things are about to change  ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: gtm41658 on January 09, 2008, 09:10:08
we pay £4/pole to council and £3 association fees...gives us among other things 10% discount in local garden centre
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: caroline7758 on January 09, 2008, 21:55:15
Just got our annual bill. It's now £18, a bit more than last year- no association, no water, no nothing really- just the plot and an occasional hedge trim if we nag the council enough!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Uncle Joshua on January 09, 2008, 22:28:12
Our rent was £15 last year but we now have taps on most allotments (and a knackered path) so I expect it to go up this year.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Teena on January 10, 2008, 15:59:30
Having just read all the posts in this subject I am quite chuffed with our plots.
We paid £6 per plot last year inluding our membership fee.
We have no water, no loos, a carpark across from the gate plus small ones on site. We only live 1/4 mile away so walk over most days. Its very friendly and theres usually someone to help if needsbe. When our new shed was delivered in bits, it was up and being used within two hours. The other plotholders just came over and got stuck in.
Our site was gifted to the locals (as I understand it) so cannot be sold or built on although it must be worth a few bob by now, our plots are 100ft x 25ft approx and there are about 100. There is a waiting list. New rents are due in March. Last years rise was 50p i think so we're expecting much the same this year.
Teena
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Lauren S on January 10, 2008, 17:10:49
This is why I love my allotment. Everyone is so friendly, helpful and knowledgeable.
Our AGM is on 18th Jan and I will find out the nitty gritty of things then. Although I was told last year as my plot was in dire straights it would be free this year. The rent is so small about £10.00
We have a few taps, room for one vehicle (to unload and go). No loos. Sheds OR greenhouses only allowed around the outside on three sides.
It's on a very steep north facing slope...with a fabulous view of the river Teign and looking out to sea.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: sunloving on January 16, 2008, 15:34:43
iM SO JEALOUS!

Because i live in northern ireland and theres not really any legal right to a plot i have a choice of two private plot sites both charge £200 for a half plot! in the contracts they require that the plot holder has insurance (so that if the landowner bangs his toe on your spade he can sue you becuase he was on your plot) which costs a min of £55 if youre a member nslg!

There are one or two plot owners who turn up in very clean bmws! which makes me laugh and theres no kidding ourselves that we are saving money by growing fruit veg and flowers , but love to garden and cant afford own house and well the raspberries and sweetpea make my day.

So cheer up you guyd thinking about a few pounds rent increase it really could be worse!
x sunloving 
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on January 16, 2008, 20:41:11
I lied, they are both 17 by 165 foot.

Wish mine was that big ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: BAK on February 01, 2008, 07:33:23
fyi - update on average rents.

As previously posted, I have been collecting info on rents for a couple of months - now called a halt.

I have 86 samples in total.

The overall average for 5 poles is £22. In the SE (where I am) it is £26
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Trevor_D on February 01, 2008, 07:57:45
Thanks for that info - just in time for our AGM on Monday. Just in case anyone moans about our fees going up every year, I can point out that we are exactly half the national average, ie £22.50 for 10 poles!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: alienwithaview on February 01, 2008, 15:02:53
We have 2 plots now, one ca. 5 rods, the other one 8 rods - in South West Wiltshire. We pay £14 each this year, and it's going up to £ 18 per plot in September. This is a lot cheaper than our plot before in West Sussex (ca. £ 25 per plot, and smaller).
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Lauren S on February 01, 2008, 16:01:00
I'm lucky I have a 24x60 and it cost me £1.75  ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: jockomorrocco on February 01, 2008, 17:34:00
i pay £20 a year and my plot is 66ft x 75 ft
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: pako on February 27, 2008, 20:50:48
i pay 20 quid mine are quite big,and a certain person sort of talked me into another bit if someone else dont take it  :-[ :P
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: jockomorrocco on February 27, 2008, 20:52:41
now now mike anyone would think i twisted your arm
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: pako on February 28, 2008, 21:17:13
 :-[ it wont be too bad the extra bit now its rotavated and i think its free this year!!!!
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: cornykev on March 02, 2008, 20:07:11
Just had my bill in,  £51.30 +  £5.40  water rate total   £56.70   for 9 poles, mine is on the end so I lose a bit but I still reckon its a bit smaller than 9 poles.  ???     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: kt. on March 02, 2008, 20:11:22
We have been told our rent will remain the same this year at £20. (5.5 poles)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Dadnlad on March 06, 2008, 19:37:00
Got our notification from the council today - £54 per 10 pole plot !  :o
Checked back, and we paid £26 per 10 pole plot in 2005
- more than doubled in 3 years

We've got two, so even keeping one in Grandma's name to get a 50% OAP discount means a bill of £81 this year  ::)


Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: DenBee on March 06, 2008, 19:51:38
Ours is part of a privately owned and managed (not council) site.  We pay £50 p.a., and no water.  I've never measured the plot, but it's around 30' x 70'.  With hedging between each allotment, so very private.  The only way I can really see what's going on in everyone else's lottie is via Google Map.  ;D  It's like having a second garden.  :)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: pako on March 06, 2008, 20:32:53
i dont think ours is too bad a price compared to some that are being talked about. :)
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: ninnyscrops on March 06, 2008, 20:36:17
2.5 poles £10 plus £5 water x 2
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: beckydore on March 06, 2008, 20:38:58
I think ours is going to be around £27 for  a half plot and £40 for a full plot.

Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: artichoke on March 11, 2008, 16:10:19
I've got one plot that is £21 for 125 sq metres, going up to £42 over that size and up to 250 sq m, with water laid on and an occasional visit from a tractor to cut the grass (no waiting list, lots of space). My other is about 125 and cost £8 with no water, privately owned.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: caseylee on March 11, 2008, 17:34:07
I've got 2 half plots equaliant to a full plot and I pay 18.50 a year each
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: Uncle Joshua on March 22, 2008, 20:35:45
I got my bill today and my rent went up £4 a year to £19, still a great deal.
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: goodlife on March 23, 2008, 21:23:56
My allotments are 35m x13m and I have 2...£3.50 per year each... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: littlebabybird on March 31, 2008, 14:23:56
£56.55   for 6.5 rods
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: twinkletoes on April 02, 2008, 13:50:45
My plot is 94' x 30' and we have just had our bill in for £25 (it was £21.10 last year).  I don't think this is bad as we get water too and we have just had loads of new taps installed and one is now right by my plot!
twinkletoes
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: sims girl on April 05, 2008, 00:01:50


my plot is 25x15 and it cost me 13.50 last year it was 12.00 but they call our plots a kichen gardens not allotments
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: IanR on April 07, 2008, 21:11:21
I have a half plot, about 30ft by 45ft on a private (rather than council) run site in South Manchester.
Have just paid this years rent, a bargain price of £10.00 plus £1.50 membership. I would be happy to pay twice that amount ! Look at the price of veg in Tescos etc.
Limited parking, reasonable security and no one is more that 2 plots distance from a tap. No toilets but we right next to a railway line with plenty of big trees !!
biggest nuisance is the wretched foxes
Title: Re: how much are you paying
Post by: manicscousers on April 07, 2008, 21:19:13
hiya, IanR, welcome to the site  ;D
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