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Title: - there are times when one is justifiably proud -
Post by: tim on February 16, 2004, 17:51:39
- and then, there are the others. Remember what they looked like a few months ago? Leaning, but luxurious!

So what do we do for greens for the next 2 months?  It doesn't really show the full delapidation, but hope it makes others feel proud of their achievement. = Tim

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Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Garden Manager on February 16, 2004, 19:08:38
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Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 16, 2004, 20:33:05
I find that very difficult to answer.
Assuming that it's a serious question, and related to gardening, rather than the fact that 'I won the Battle of Britain or raised 4 children single handed' - I'm proud of my web album, given my age.

What are you proud of?? = Tim

Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: busy_lizzie on February 16, 2004, 23:13:06
You have every reason to feel proud Tim.  I can't believe you are over eighty, as the attitute and energy that comes through in your messages is so vital.  8) Your a real cool guy!

You have packed a whole lot into your decades of  life and may it long continue.  Please read the homily at the bottom of my page.

Garden-wise I am always interested and respectful of your advice and gardening tips.  Although there are signs that spring is on its way, veggies-wise it seems to be still, in the main, a rather static time, but just give it a month or two and then do doubt it will be all systems go.  I think Richard would not be much of an asset in the Diplomatic Corp.,  ::) but probably didn't mean to cause any offence.  
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Derekthefox on February 16, 2004, 23:32:20
Here Here, busy_Lizzie and Oz for standing up for a true gentleman.

Richard, if YOU have any honour, then you will reply to Tim's question - 'What are YOU proud of?'
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: SueT on February 16, 2004, 23:37:32
I echo that Derek, I feel Tim has much to be proud of, not only for his garden but also because of exploits during the war as well as raising his family.  You are a gentleman Tim!
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Mrs Ava on February 17, 2004, 00:46:41
Cor Tim, you blusing? :-*   I have to say, those greens still look darn good to me.  I love my greens so much!  Are you pretty much veggie self sufficient Tim?
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: RSJK on February 17, 2004, 09:13:52
:)
Well done Tim l hope l can still do as good as you when l reach your age you are a credit to the nation.  Once again Richard F puts his foot in his mouth again, why does he show no respect for people.  All these remarks he makes without thinking upsets people and with him wanting people from this great gardening site to join his.    NO WAY
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: rdak on February 17, 2004, 10:34:06
I think people are overreacting a bit here. From Tim's post, I couldn't tell what exactly he is proud of either. I don't remember what it looked like a few months ago, so I don't know what Tim has done either - was it a mud patch, was it covered in brambles etc etc.

Yes, you can decide to interprete Richard's post as confrontational if you want to, depending on how you choose to annunciate each word. But I honestly don't think Richard meant to cause offence and given the fact that posts here, like emails and text, are composed quickly and sent off, can't we at least give the benefit of the doubt.

So Tim, what was that patch like a few months ago? And what is that crop growing there now..nice to see you're still getting some veg at this time of year.
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Ceri on February 17, 2004, 10:49:02
errr... I am reading Tim's first post wrongly - I got the impression that he was distinctly unimpressed with his plants and was being sarcastic, as in ....."and then there are others".



Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: aquilegia on February 17, 2004, 10:57:14
Echo Ceri. Especially as Tim said 'It doesn't really show the full delapidation'

And Echo Lizzie's comments re Tim's age and energy. I hope I've got half your energy at 80! To be honest I was shocked when I saw you were 80 - you seem about half that age!
Title: Re: there are times when one is justifiably proud
Post by: tim on February 17, 2004, 13:08:08
Oh dear, oh dear! I really must try to speak the English!!

1. Some folk will have seen the lush growth of the purple & white sprouting when I complained about it, a while back, leaning drunkenly. And I refuse to give in to staking 30 plants! It was planting on recently dug soil that did it.

2. For those who read me right, yes, I was quite proud of my 2003 album, but this is one of 'the other times', when I'm deeply ashamed of the mouldering mass which was to be our staple diet for the next 2 months.

3. So - I reckoned that it would enable others, possibly needing encouragement, to say 'well, we can do it a d......d sight better than that'.

4. And everyone will have read the touch of irony in my reply to a question that did not amuse me?

Is that sorted, then?? = Tim

PS Yes, of course, a bit of a blush!!
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: rdak on February 17, 2004, 13:19:21
Have heard people refer to 'purple sprouting' - is this a type of broccoli? Do you eat the leaves like spinach or just the 'florets'?

Having read comments about Brussel Sprouts falling over, is this a common problem with all tall brassicas? Should I be stomping on the soil before planting?!
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 17, 2004, 13:55:59
Yes
No/yes
Yes
OK?
Trouble is - there are now various types - the stuff we got at the Farmers' Market recently was much more 'fullsome', and a bit tough - grown for size and economy in picking. The 'old' type is akin to asparagus in delicacy and, in my opinion, superior.
Typically, a shoot can be 2-4" - have some young leaves on it - and break cleanly as you pick. It will then be tender. And cook lightly. Don't forget the butter!! = Tim

PS I prefer the white - sweeter but less hardy.
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Ceri on February 17, 2004, 14:50:23
they are selling this in my 'local' supermarkets at the moment - at an EXTORTIONATE price - a tiny pack (like they sell the baby sweetcorn in) for nearly £2.  Outrageous.  I'm fascinated by the machinations of the supermarkets' minds - they develop strains to suit themselves - size, colour, harvest etc., which is why until very recently there was standard calabrese in the shops, and they are now selling the 'old' style original forms at a massive markup as if they are incredibly unusual and special.  Because of the supermarkets' buying policy, sadly, such varieties have become exactly that.  (my anti-supermarkets' massive buying power pressurising the growers and leading consumers with no choice by the nose rant is now over for the day - normal service will be resumed shortly)
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 17, 2004, 18:37:11
To be fair, like cherry toms, 'original' sprouting is a pain to pick commercially? = Tim
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Ceri on February 17, 2004, 20:09:20
But I don't want to be fair...

I don't know, there is always one reasonable person out there!!!
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: legless on February 17, 2004, 22:57:04
purple sprouting is my favourite vegetable in the whole world apart from sprout tops - which you only seem to be able to buy in lincolnshire! one of the reasons behind the allotment  :D
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: SueT on February 17, 2004, 23:57:39
Did someone mention purple sprouting?................love it! :D
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 18, 2004, 09:05:32
Sprout  tops - Farmers' Market - whole stems - cheaper,  and the top comes free! - believe S......y's do them. But something went wrong with timing this year - can't explain. =  Tim
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Garden Manager on February 18, 2004, 16:09:08
I meant no offence or disrespect to tim. I was merely enquiring into what acheivement IN PARTICULAR  his post was refering.  An elaboration may be reqired here Tim if you'll be so kind sir.

What am I proud of. Plenty of things. Like the first time a plant, that I have grown from seed or cutting and nurtured carefully,  flowers or sets fruit. Or perhaps when someone admires a bed or border i have carefully planned and planted up. Shall I go on?

I should REALLY be carefull what i type shouldnt I?
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 18, 2004, 19:35:59
Drool?

This is how young we're having to pick it! = Tim

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I'll get the focus right next time - not going to go through all that again now!
Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: tim on February 18, 2004, 20:57:59
Richard - thanks. But you've put me on the spot.

'Proud'? It was a generalisation, referring more to others, rather than myself.  And strictly as an encouragement pour les autres. Trying to show that a  lifetime of dabbling, on & off, doesn't mean God!
For the last 1/2 hour, I've been trying to think of anything of which I am 'proud'.  'Excessive self esteem' - no! 'Much pleased' - yes - but mainly with what the children have achieved. It may be a sad & cynical attitude but although, after all these years, I still get enormous satisfaction from the soil, I tend to see more weeds than fruit! And still experiment to do better 'next year'.

So - where does that get us? And have I answered your question?? = Tim

Title: Re: - there are times when one is justifiably prou
Post by: Garden Manager on February 20, 2004, 16:15:54
Dont Know

Yes It has

I hope I answered your question as well.

You should certainly feel proud of your achievements Tim. Many of them put us all to shame, particularly me.
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