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Produce => Under Glass => Topic started by: Duke Ellington on May 11, 2010, 21:15:23
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I was given a root trainer set [root trainer deep, holder and lid] as a Christmas present. I wanted to buy another but was shocked at how expensive they are. How long do the root trainer inserts last. Does anyone know of way to buy them a little cheaper than the garden centre?
Duke
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They don't come cheap you could try http://www.haxnicks.co.uk/Garden/Rootrainers/
I think someone on ebay does used ones, might be worth a look.
Mine have lasted quite a few years and are still useable, although expensive to buy they have been reused many times each season to good effect.
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I get one or two sowings a year in mine, the oldest inserts are about 5 years old, and some of these I've just had to replace. It's really a matter of how careful you are with them when empty, where you store them, and how much time they spend out in the elements.
In total I now have 9 32 cell units, 4 of which I bought this year. As posted they're cheaper if you buy direct from haxnicks.
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I've been using them for years, I use them for corn and always had great results, for some stupid reason I didn't use them this year, my corn is not as good looking as usual.
Just be gentle with them.
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Five years here too but as has been said be gentle with them,I get two sowings a year with them.
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I've used mine for about five years too. Mine have all 'gone' along the bottom hinge and each side part is separate but they still fit together fine and hold together when in the frames. They get a bit tatty along the edges but really they are pretty sturdy.
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I got mine second hand from eBay last year, got a bulk purchase of 12 sets , and they sent me a load of spare cells too. They looked barely used (I'm guessing from an ex commercial enterpise) so I can recommend them.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-x-Rootrainers-Deep-used-Root-trainers-2nd-grade-/140395625600?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Pots_Window_Boxes_CV&hash=item20b03b3c80
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I've had mine for about 5 or 6 years. I think they're great, and get good results from them.
I use them two or three times during the season. They're getting a bit bashed now, but still fine to use.
Alison
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I havve had mine for a couple of years and they are still ok, I have runner beans in them at the moment . In July I shall start off my spring cabbage in them and transplant in September so they get used twic.I never leave the out to get damaged by the elements. After use I rinse them with soapy water and rinse them in Campden tablet solution ready for the following season.
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Thanks for all the replies and that link to the ebay seller.
Duke
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I know they work, but I simply won't buy them while they are made from plastic 2-3x flimsier AND more brittle than the tray that comes free with my sausages (ironically, it's a tray I don't need and actually don't want).
It's ethically appalling and indefensible to make something out of such absolute crap to the point where you're almost afraid to touch it.
This is entirely separate from any green issues - I object because it's total abuse of the underlying spirit of patent and copyright - working against efficient home production of food - a cause which is morally entirely without blemish.
I simply refuse to support their approach. I'd rather put some effort into making my own containers that are just as good - it's actually less effort than treating rootrainers that carefully.
It's not the huge profit that really bothers me - I'd be quite happy to pay 10-20% more for a version that was two or three times as thick. They would still cost nothing to make - so their profit would be even bigger if they did that.
The fact that all you guys are making them last despite their best efforts to screw you proves they would actually make more profit from a decent product...
Cheers.
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I know they work, but I simply won't buy them while they are made from plastic 2-3x flimsier AND more brittle than the tray that comes free with my sausages (ironically, it's a tray I don't need and actually don't want).
It's ethically appalling and indefensible to make something out of such absolute crap to the point where you're almost afraid to touch it.
This is entirely separate from any green issues - I object because it's total abuse of the underlying spirit of patent and copyright - working against efficient home production of food - a cause which is morally entirely without blemish.
I simply refuse to support their approach. I'd rather put some effort into making my own containers that are just as good - it's actually less effort than treating rootrainers that carefully.
It's not the huge profit that really bothers me - I'd be quite happy to pay 10-20% more for a version that was two or three times as thick. They would still cost nothing to make - so their profit would be even bigger if they did that.
The fact that all you guys are making them last despite their best efforts to screw you proves they would actually make more profit from a decent product...
Cheers.
All very true.
You should email it to them.
They need to wake up and make a better product, because it is a great idea which produces great results.
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I bought a whole case from Rannash several years ago, cost 2.75 each set. I sold most on at cost to fellow allotmenteers, and we are all still using them. I use mine on an average of 3 times a season.
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All very true.
You should email it to them.
They need to wake up and make a better product, because it is a great idea which produces great results.
Sad to say, I'm absolutely certain they know exactly where they stand on this and are happy to continue indefinitely.
Only reducing their profits will make them re-think.
You'll all just have to wean yourselves off them before you need to replace them!
Cheers.
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I got mine second hand from eBay last year, got a bulk purchase of 12 sets , and they sent me a load of spare cells too. They looked barely used (I'm guessing from an ex commercial enterpise) so I can recommend them.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-x-Rootrainers-Deep-used-Root-trainers-2nd-grade-/140395625600?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Plants_Pots_Window_Boxes_CV&hash=item20b03b3c80
if you look at the sellers items they have more for sale not sure what the difference between rapid and deep are though.
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It's the size of the cells Louise, the 'deep' ones are 11.5cm in depth, the 'rapid' are 8cm deep. My have all been used this year again, I grew all of my sunflowers, beans and sweetcorn in them.
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Wish I had more than one set (they are just sooo expensive) I love the way they seem to stay moist so much longer and you can get 32 plants into a gravel tray (or propagator) with them ....The sweetcorn comes out of them next week and I'll probably start some parsnips or carrots in them next.....
The deep ones are thugs for compost and it's surprising how much they weigh when they're full......
crisc
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I use mine every year and they are starting to fall apart, i am appalled at how much a new set will cost, but they are sooo good, when the root trainers are full the toilet rolls kick in ;D
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If it helps - a neighbour of mine at the allotments replaced her cells with rolled up newspaper. She wets it and forms it around a stake and then inserts them into the holder. The advantages are 1) it costs nothing and 2) you don't need to remove the newspaper when planting out. The holder acts perfectly well with her home made rooters.
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One of the local allotment sites has them in and they work out so much cheaper, i pay 21p to replace a 'book' and mine are about 5 years old so compared with cell trays they hold there own and work so well.
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I was bought a set of rapid root trainers - branded and from haxnicks. My trouble is I can't get all the books to fit in the holder. They are all closed properly, and very snug, but there is just not enough room to fit in the last book. I am using the correct number of books so not trying to force in an extra one.
Has anyone else found this? Any suggestions about what to do or what I am doing wrong? I don't want to ram them all in so hard that I ruin them - and to do that would crumple at least one book anyway.
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They hold 8 'books' and the last one is not easy to get in, i find putting it in the one before the last one and lifing the two either side a little and pushing makes the last one fit fine :)
Don't fill them till they are in the tray !!!!
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They look good and all that but not sure if the cost is justifiable for some seedling holders. If they only seem to last 5 years or so, I would spend less than that on seed trays & pots ::) ::)
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Hi fellow gardeners.
The price of these things is an absolute shocker but Wyevale GC now have kits containing 32 cells and a few other equally flimsy bits of plastic for 5.99 (was 7.99) which may be the cheapest way to give these things a try - I bought one set.