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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Jayb on July 22, 2011, 07:48:14
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Several people have been asking to join the seed saving circle. Unfortunately this is full.
However;
I know this is late in the day, but if there are any seed savers who would like to make up another group I’d be happy to add some varieties to the mix. It should be simple enough to run alongside the other group.
Anyone interested?
This group is now closed. New group starting in the New Year :)
Google Document can be found here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4EAnNWSdcuzyoJg5XE7-9AUAoOgSqIKSUFdBAzhqHg/edit?hl=en_US
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Yes; I'm sure I could find second batches of some seeds.
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Yes I am, I will be able to give a list of seeds in the next week or so. :)
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I'm game :)
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You are a star, thanks Robert.
Gadget and Hector welcome to the mini circle, glad to have you on board. Hopefully a few more people who asked to join will get involved. I'm sure between us we will have a nice little selection on offer. I'll try and add seeds around what you guys are offering. Off the top of my head I'm fairly sure I will be able to choose from tomatoes, peas, climbing or dwarf beans, parsnip, onion, tps.
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Count me in!!!!
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Welcome Mark, glad to have you join. Any ideas of what you will be saving?
Hector are you going with the list you made on the other thread?
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Angelica's about ready for bagging, or I'll lose seed. The spinach is looking good, and there should be plenty of peas as long as I can keep the flying rats off them. The beans haven't got started yet, but there should be seed from half a dozen varieties. I've only had one failure (Mrs Fortune's), which caught the late frost badly, and I ended up with one plant. There might be a little seed to share round, but I'm not promising.
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i'm sure I'll have some beans and tomatoes, that I was going to save for myself, and not include in the main seed saving circle - pencil me in as a possible ;)
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oh yes, that'll be so good for me to join.. most of the seed i have are modern varieties and it's only recently, that i've been getting into the unusual and heritage stuff.. so am i allowed this still?
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All sounds good Robert, I may have Mrs Fortune's beans growing, can't quite remember, I'll check later.
Consider yourself pencilled in 1066 :)
Hi irridium, yes please join in. If you are just starting your interest in heritage/open pollinated varieties, this is a great ideal way to get involved share experiences and have the opportunity to start off your own little collection.
As long as you are able to save some open pollinated seed, usually 2 different varieties of your choice. Heritage is great but not always essential. At this short notice I think it is going to limit your choices of what you can save it will pretty much need to be something you are already growing. Some things won't be suitable eg beetroot as this won't seed until the following year, if it does seed in the first year it has bolted and is no good for seed saving. Early bolting is not a good trait to breed for. Check out the other seed circle thread lots of info and links on how to grow and save seed, avoid cross pollination etc.
I'm looking forward to reading what you decide on saving; if you’re not sure of something ask away.
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You are a star, thanks Robert.
Gadget and Hector welcome to the mini circle, glad to have you on board. Hopefully a few more people who asked to join will get involved. I'm sure between us we will have a nice little selection on offer. I'll try and add seeds around what you guys are offering. Off the top of my head I'm fairly sure I will be able to choose from tomatoes, peas, climbing or dwarf beans, parsnip, onion, tps.
Ohh I'll cut and pate JayB :) Thank you for doing this :)
Here's what I have growing well at the moment :)
I have...
Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce (never gathed lettuce seed before)
Tomato Snowberry
Mini White Cucumber
Lettuce Drunken Women ( I'm keeping the lettuce separate)
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I can add some kales since I have ridiculous quantities of seed.
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i had an accident the other day and washed six packets of lettice seeds so have plants them all. Toooooooooo many to eat so half are in pots, i'll have lots to add to both circles hopefully.
They are:- fat lazy blond
drunken woman
emerald oak leaf
carmona
cardinal
grandpa admiral
Oh and if i can get the pink one i bred last year to flower that to.
Twoflower
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oooh, I can join in too? Will have se black seaman, polen and hopefully f3 rosada tom seeds
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Eight so far, anyone else fancy joining in?
Robert B, Kale and possibly peas/beans
Gadget TBC
Hector, Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
Tomato Snowberry
Mini White Cucumber
Lettuce Drunken Women
Mark S, TBC
1066, Pencilled in.
Iridium, TBC
Twoflower, is on a lettuce fest, something from this list
Fat Lazy Blond
Drunken Woman
Emerald Oak leaf
Carmona
Cardinal
Grandpa Admiral
or maybe a homebred pink
Lottie Lou, tomatoes; Black Seaman, Polen and hopefully f3 Rosada
Jayb, choosing;
from Carol Leenstra’s climbing French bean, Black Greasy Grits
stripy tomato, Violet Jasper, Green Zebra cherry, Black and Brown Boar
a variety of TPS, not sure what yet.
I can change what I am saving and put other crops in if needed.
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i would love to join in but have no saved seeds only common every day stuff peas beans etc no exciting varietys :'(but could buy some unusal seeds ;D to start off or is this not allowed classed as cheating?count me in if acceptable ( count me out if not )ta
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I should have some peas, ones that came from last years seed saving circle. Just need to finish drying them.
Just happy to bump the numbers if you know what I mean :)
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If bumping up the numbers is needed...I should have some leek seeds coming up and some tomatoes..perhars some beans too?
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I would love to join in but the only two plants that I have grown for seed saving (first attempt) are Alaskan Fancy Tomato and Yin Yang dwarf beans. They are growing well and I hope to be able to get some seeds this year.
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i would love to join in but have no saved seeds only common every day stuff peas beans etc no exciting varietys :'(but could buy some unusal seeds ;D to start off or is this not allowed classed as cheating?count me in if acceptable ( count me out if not )ta
Buying enough for everyone kind of defeats the purpose of the circle :-\
Don’t let fancy names put you off having a go; learning, sharing and taking part are important too :)
What variety of peas and beans are you growing? Have you got any non F1 tomatoes, peppers, chillies or aubergine on the go you could isolate/bag, any flowering herbs or plants with edible flowers? Have your potatoes got any berries to be nurtured till ripe? What about a pumpkin, squash, courgette or a cucumber plant you could bag and pollinate?
Ophi your beans and tomato sound ideal, welcome aboard ;D
Sounds good 1066, yep :)
Goodlife thanks for the offer. I realised some had missed out on joining the other group by the amount of people still asking to join. I think at this late date it will be a smaller group, although it looks like it is taking shape nicely. I'll put you on the reserve list if I may ;D
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Thank you. I will keep an eye on the Burgundy Red potatoes that are isolated and seem to have nice little pods forming ;)
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I've just collected masses of seed from my angelica, so you can add that.
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After doing an inventory of the plot I have come up with this list:
Sunflowers
Berlotti beans
corriander seeds
sweetpeas
purple chillies
:)
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The group stands currently at ten, Goodlife I’ve put you on reserve although you are very welcome to be in the group 'proper' if you would like.
Here is the current list and guide of what seed is being produced. I think it is taking shape nicely. Please hop in if you have or will be saving seed this year and fancy sharing with the group.
Robert B, Kale and possibly peas/beans and Angelica
Gadget, Sunflowers
Borlotti beans
Coriander seeds
Sweet peas
Purple chillies
Hector, Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
Tomato Snowberry
Mini White Cucumber
Lettuce Drunken Women
Mark S, TBC
1066, Pencilled in possibly peas.
Iridium, TBC
Twoflower, is on a lettuce fest, something from this list
Fat Lazy Blond
Drunken Woman
Emerald Oak leaf
Carmona
Cardinal
Grandpa Admiral
or maybe a homebred pink
Lottie Lou, tomatoes; Black Seaman, Polen and hopefully f3 Rosada
Jayb, so far Carol Leenstra’s climbing French bean, Green Zebra cherry tomato and probably Russian Blue tps
Ophi, Tomato Alaskan Fancy and Yin Yang dwarf beans, possibly Burgundy Red tps
Goodlife
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Jayb..add me in 'proper' ;D
As for what to add into list..Hmmm...can I get back to that bit later..I've got several options but some depends still for how things progress next few weeks.
It will be toss between different toms, leek, beans and peas..for now..
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Hi, hopefully I will have some
climbing French Beans like Major Cook
peas - telephone and Champion of England and 1 of the purple ones, Winterkeefe is also a possible
Tomatoes - Blue OSU
Dwarf French beans, I'm not sure of at all
Kale
And the rest, well it is a wait and see thingymejib at the moment
Have to say the list is shaping up nicely 8)
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Black seeded simpson going to seed :)
Drunken woman not going to seed yet but still time :)
White Mini cukes, looking good!!!!
Snowberry toms not ripe yet but still think will be ok
I've also got back up variety of Golden Pea Mange Tout
Incidentally when would we be distributing , as I may have more French Beans then :)
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Soooo exciting, lovely selection guys :)
Hector you have plenty of time. I've copied this form the other Seed Circle thread;
"Basics; Each person in the group chooses and grows 2 (more if you wish) Heritage or open pollinated vegetables for seed (preferably seeds interesting and new to the circle). Grow and harvest enough seeds for all the members of the group. Once they are really dry divide the seeds into individual portions, send to a central point which is then shared between everyone. You will need to provide a suitable return envelope and postage.
To take part you will also need to be an active and participating member of A4A during this period. Going on this year’s Circle, I think sending seeds in by 30th November will work, allows enough time for most varieties of seeds to be harvested, dried and posted, so parcels can be made up for the beginning of December and sent in time for Christmas."
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Forgot to say, seeds need to be individually portioned up, last year some of us used the little plastic zippy bags or used the dinner money type brown envelopes. Others were far more creative making their own designs, I'll post some links when I find them. Each individual packet of seeds needs to be labelled with the seed variety/name, also useful to add is your name, date and any other info you think relevant. I'll pm my address nearer the time.
Any volunteers for helping to do a google doc to catalogue and describe the varieties being grown?
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I don't mind helping with google searches :)
Sad, but I am quite excited about this.
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My climbing beans are only just starting; I picked the first batch this week. I should have seed by November though, especially if it continues to rain. Some of them are looking rather wilted.
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Hi, hopefully I will have some
peas - telephone and Champion of England and 1 of the purple ones, Winterkeefe is also a possible
Actually scrub that, The Salmon Flowered are better, have lots, and still a purple and maybe Winterkeefe if they ever dry out
Jayb, I can always offer help with the docs (either circle). I also have lots of photos this year ;D
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Thanks hector and 1066, I'll be in touch shortly :)
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Jay if you need another one pop me in, I have plenty to share but was holding off to give newcomers a place.
XX Jeannine
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I have just packeted lettuce Brune d'hiver for the other seed circle and have seeds left for people here in the extra circle. Will put in little seed packets once I know the numbers required.
I have also fermented a lot seeds of a very early tomato from Alaska and should have enough seeds for both circles.
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Forgot to say, seeds need to be individually portioned up, last year some of us used the little plastic zippy bags or used the dinner money type brown envelopes. Others were far more creative making their own designs, I'll post some links when I find them. Each individual packet of seeds needs to be labelled with the seed variety/name, also useful to add is your name, date and any other info you think relevant. I'll pm my address nearer the time.
Any volunteers for helping to do a google doc to catalogue and describe the varieties being grown?
Yes, and I will also upload a little article I wrote about how to fold your own paper seed envelopes, if this would be useful. (Pm to follow).
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Oooo Brune D'Hiver, one of my favourites. Looking forward to it. In fact this years 2nd batch are just about to be planted out :)
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Jay if you need another one pop me in, I have plenty to share but was holding off to give newcomers a place.
XX Jeannine
Missed this, Yes lovely if you want to join, but no need to if you are happy being in the other circle. I'll leave it to you :)
It would be nice to have a couple more newcomers too as for me, a large part of what this is all about is joining in with others, enjoying the sharing, and having the benefit of all levels of experience.
Had a go at saving some Herbs, squash, courgette, edible flowers, salad etc... last call, if there is anyone left wanting to join, now is the time :)
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Sorry to double post but thought this should be here too :)
"Thought I'd re-post this (from last years thread) maybe of interest...although chances are I’m going to use little plastic zippy bags and cut out printed labels or the little brown paper dinner money envelopes. I did love the the home made folded ones though, really clever :)
"If anyone is looking for inspiration to make their own seed packets have a look at this lovely blog http://hayefield.com/2008/08/07/origami-for-seed-savers/
and another variation here, thank you ICPS Seed Bank for this guide http://www.carnivorousplants.org/seedbank/Envelope.htm
There are lots of sites offering templates which can be printed and cut out. These envelopes will need a bit of glue though
http://theseedsite.co.uk/envelope.html
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/flowox43055/template/seedtemplate.html "
Last years envelopes
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Jayb,
I understand about all the envelopes and labelling etc, do I send them into a central pot? ??? and if so where....sorry, I am having a bit of a week and my brain is not retaining any info... ;D
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Hi Gadget, yes your seeds will need to be sent to me in a Self Addressed envelope. Include stamps to the value of £2.48 1st or £2.01 2nd to be on the safe side although I think it should be £1.96 or £1.72 maybe less depending on the size. I’ll return any unused stamps with your seeds.
Last year I had an envelope with each person’s name on. When the seeds started arriving it made it quite easy to divide the seeds equally and keep a track of. I am aiming to post them back to you first week of December.
Edit to add updated list;
The group stands currently at eleven (12 if Jeannine joins us),
Robert B, Kale and possibly peas/beans and Angelica
Gadget, Sunflowers
Borlotti beans
Coriander seeds
Sweet peas
Purple chillies
Hector, Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
Tomato Snowberry
Mini White Cucumber
Lettuce Drunken Women
As back up Golden Pea Mange Tout
Mark S, TBC
1066, Pencilled in possibly; climbing French Beans like Major Cook
peas - , Salmon Flowered, a purple and maybe Winterkeefe if they ever dry out
Tomatoes - Blue OSU
Dwarf French beans, I'm not sure of at all
Kale.
Iridium, TBC
Twoflower, is on a lettuce fest, something from this list
Fat Lazy Blond
Drunken Woman
Emerald Oak leaf
Carmona
Cardinal
Grandpa Admiral
or maybe a homebred pink
Lottie Lou, tomatoes; Black Seaman, Polen and hopefully f3 Rosada
Jayb, so far Carol Leenstra’s climbing French bean, Green Zebra cherry tomato and probably Russian Blue tps
Ophi, Tomato Alaskan Fancy and Yin Yang dwarf beans, possibly Burgundy Red tps
Goodlife toms, leek, beans and peas tbc
Jeannine (pencilled in to join)
Galina donating Brune d'hiver lettuce and probably Alaska tomatoes. Thank you
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ooooo it's getting exciting, the thought of packing up seeds, sending them off, waiting for the return goodie bag (yes we put Goodie aka goodlife) in a bag and send her round with the seeds :D :D :D
as usual, I'm not sure I'll be around, so will confer with the postmistress nearer the time ;) :)
Now I need to go and make some envelopes up, but looking at the forecast I think that's a job for Sunday/Monday :-X
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yes we put Goodie aka goodlife) in a bag and send her round with the seeds Uh..those stamps don't cover my travels..and there is weight destriction how much postie will carry in a bag..I might have biggy back ride if he is strong enough.. ;) ;D
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yes we put Goodie aka goodlife in a bag and send her round with the seeds :D :D :D
:o :o ;D
Here's my update;
Carol Leenstra’s climbing beans are drying,
Green Zebra cherry fermented and now dry enough to be portioned up.
Russian Blue tps, harvested, processed and now drying.
I’ve revised the Circle list as far as I can today, be lovely to have some more updates soon. I’ve started a google document for the circle which 1066 and Hector have kindly offered to organize.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4EAnNWSdcuzyoJg5XE7-9AUAoOgSqIKSUFdBAzhqHg/edit?hl=en_US
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yes we put Goodie aka goodlife) in a bag and send her round with the seeds Uh..those stamps don't cover my travels..and there is weight destriction how much postie will carry in a bag..I might have biggy back ride if he is strong enough.. ;) ;D
Hmmm, not a very dignified way of travelling round the country distributing seeds then! Back to the drawing board ;) ;D
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Hmmm, not a very dignified way of travelling round the country distributing seeds then! Back to the drawing board ;D..might not be dignified..but if the postie man is stropping lad it (he needs to be :-X)) should be pleasure.. ;D Your seeds would be delivered with BIG grin.. ;D ;)
Ahh...for the more serious matter...I'be been hanging up beans to dry..small GH is full of bundles and not all are out of the ground yet. Some plants are starting to turn yellow now so I selectively pulled them up.
Begining of the growing season I had this 'clever' idea... ::)..by putting old wire hanging baskets over some bush beans to keep them upright and beans off from ground. Yes..did the job beautifully..but what I didn't take into account is that they grow through them and now I cannot pull them through again.. ::)
So I've got hanging baskets tied up under eaves in GH..and those plants that wasn't tangled are drying in the baskets.. ;D Something good at least but the baskets takes a lot of room.
Loads of tomato seeds are 'brewing'. So I can say that I've got plenty of Mexican tomato seeds...that's one lot almost sorted, two lots of peas are bagged; Skånsk Märgärt and Mammoth Melting Sugar Snow.
Leeks for seeds are looking good..loads of BIG flower head..but they are not ripening?!!!...perharps patience is the word...
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Looking forward to the big grin then :D
Can I ask you how you tie stuff up in the greenhouse. My ghouse is new this year, and I'm still on a major learning curve. How do you get stuff tied, I've looked around mine and can't see how you do it ! It would be great as you say for finishing drying the beans off
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in my green house i have 3 or 4 strengthening bars in the apex of the roof and i have a thick handle of a old yard brush wedged through them which i hang vege on to dry off, my onions once their dried and strung also my hanging baskets once they have been planted in the spring and last year basket toms hung from there.
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I've done something similar to Brown Thumb...piece of timber or long thick cane across the support bars ..beans tied into bundles and hooked over the timber/cane...I do same with peas too.
Or..if you GH don't have the bars..one of mine don't..I have bolted some L-shape GH shelf brackets high up..and tied cane across to those..
I bought crop bars to my polytunnel which work same as support bars in GH..good buy..so many things you can put up 'out of way'.
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Hmm...two of Snowberry fruit colouring up and they are red! I definitely haven't mixed up pots/seed.
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Anyone got nice piccies of their varieties we can use for the cultivation/variety sheet :)
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Interesting point Hector, it is easy enough to grow a variety, but keeping an eye on it being true to type is important. Possible it is another variety mixed in by mistake or perhaps a crossed seed. Some whites do take on a yellow or pinky type colour when very ripe, I'm guessing you mean red as in pillar box? Are you getting the same coloured fruit from all of your plants? If they taste good you could grow some again next year to see if they segregate.
I'm just sorting out some pictures and info to add for my varieties.
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Well, what with the lousy weather and the beans not ripeninng I'm going to take inspiration from heath robinson and rig something up in the greenhouse to try and get them to dry off. :-X
will add the details and pics to the doc in the next day or so. Lots of peas bagged up! Yaayy ;D
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I put stuff either on the windowsill or in the boiler room down at the church to dry off. Right now I've got broad bean pods drying out nicely right next to me.
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Quick update
Purple Tiger Chillies - just started harvesting doing very nicely
Borlotti beans climbers - harvesting and drying out
Sweet pea Fragrantissima - doing very well
Sunflowers - drying out in the shed
Corriander - started well but looks like I may of have lost half of them
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I have plenty of Major Cook beans - as long as they dry properly :) Doesn't look like I'll have any lettuce or chillies. But lets focus on the positives!
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I put them in Tesco hessian bags, and leave them where the air can circulate. I've got Major Cooke if yours don't work.
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that's a good tip Robert, thanks. I think they will dry out, it will just take a while. I had them hanging in the greenhouse for a few weeks and now they are at home in bowls on sunny windowsills :)
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My Yin Yang beans are dry and we arejust drying out the alaskan fancy. Was worried until we had that week of sunshine and now realise that I probably will have enough to share after all.
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that's great news Ophi 8)
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My beans are drying slowly, but it'll take time.
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think I almost there with the seeds, not as much as I hoped, but not too bad for first time drying, I will pick up my mini envelopes at the week and start writting them up, when is the dead line again? :)
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I've everything just about ready..all bagged up and now there is lots and lots of labels to write.. ::)
Poor hand..
Anyway..I've ended up bagging some Yamato 3 feet cucumbers, Mexican tomatoes, Skånsk Märgart and Mammoth Melting Sugar Snow peas..not quite what I originally 'promised'..but I hope those would do?
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they all sounds very tempting Goodie 8)
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I've got everything ready but the beans. They'll probably be a couple of weeks yet as I need to let them get properly dry.
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Rather than double post here’s a link to the other seed circle, post 443 http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,64431.440.html .
As with the other group I sent pm’s second week of October to some of the group who hadn’t been on the thread for a while. I’ve had no word back from Mark S.
It looks like our group stands at 10.
Robert B
Gadget
Hector
1066
Iridium
Two flower
Lottie Lou
Jayb
Ophi
Goodlife
Please let me know if it is any different. Galina sensibly suggested last year we include 1 extra of each variety in case of mishap which takes us to 11. I hope this is manageable for everyone.
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I can manage 11 lots - I won't include anything I don't have enough of - do you want everything bagged in 11 sets?
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Yes please :)
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Is anyone else planning to offer Trail of Tears bean? I don't have that many bean seeds, but I can manage T of T for this group if someone else can (hopefully) offer them to the other.
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I had a good crop of them this year, if you need any extra I've plenty here.
Simlarly if anyone in the other group wants some they are very welcome.
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I'll send some just for this swap then. Same goes for Black Magic runner beans since I only have a limited quantity. I'll be able to plant a lot more beans next year.
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Can someone make this sticky so it doesn't disappear?
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Done :)
I've had several pm's to say seeds are on the way Yayyyy ;D
I've added my seeds in and Goodlife's have arrived.
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Mine are still being sorted. Next few days; I'm waiting for a delivery of plastic envelopes for the small seeds.
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Sounding good :)
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Sorry to have been a bit uncommunicative over the last few months, both of my elderly parents have been ill at the same time and we have had very little spare brain time between work, allotment, and trying to keep them happy and comfortable.
Fortunately we have had a good crop of Alaskan Fancy, Yin Yang beans, and Cherokee Trail of Tears beans. I bagged them up last night and managed to totally spell trail wrong on all the packs ::) So those of you who get trial of tears are not getting anything unusual other than a half asleep Ophi being dyslexic many times with her pen.
I notice that the Trail of Tears beans have been offerred by other people and am quite happy for them to be donated to something or other if they are not required.
I will be toddling to the Post Office at lunch time to send them on their way.
We grew the Alaskan Fancy outdoors in dents filled with compost in a top layer (over our not too well worked clay) of about six inches of stable sweepings. I planted 20 seeeds (which I thought was a very small amount to receive), all 20 germinated, and were planted. They grew into very sturdy dense two foot bushes that fruited like a dream. They mostly came ripe in September and we produced about 15 portions of slices in the freezer as ingredient for my favourite curry, 30 double portions of pasta sauce for my and sons freezer, 11 bottles of a very nice green tomato sauce, rather too many jars of green tomato chutney, quite a few green tomato cakes, my son made fresh soup, and we gave more than I can remember away for various recipes. I think that in a year with a better summer you might get a better succession of ripening.
The Yin Yang beans were planted straight in the soil a bit later in the season than the climbing type beans and ripened and dried on the plants much quicker than the taller varieties. I kept most of them for seed as I only planted about 18 plants and was planning to grow my stock and share.
I am hoping that my first attempt at saving seed grows for you and very much looking forward to trying the different varieties that you have kindly grown for me.
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Well done you, Ophi! You've managed grow and bag up all those seeds while having 'hands full' in your life.
I can only return your kind wishes..and hope same to you.. ;D...it will be like christmas when all those seed packets land on our doorsteps.. ;D
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Thank you. My youngest son is well impressed with the idea of swapping seeds. He had not realised you could do this. :)
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What a year Ophi and thank you for sharing your experiences. I've not grown Alaskan Fancy, so it is lovely to read your first hand recommendation :)
I really hope youv'e enjoyed the experience and find some new favorites in the crops we share :)
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Super parcel received from Ophi, cheers ;D
Lovely seeds recieved from Twoflower, and Galina has kindly donated seeds to the circle too :)
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Hi, Can I join this as well, thanks
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Hi Bing, thanks for the interest but sadly it is too late to join this year as some of the seeds have already been packed and sent in. Hopefully we will be doing another seed circle next year which you could join.
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My seeds are now ready for the post; the other parcel will be sorted tomorrow. Sorry about the delay. What are the passwords for the Google docs?
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Robert I've added you to this groups document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4EAnNWSdcuzyoJg5XE7-9AUAoOgSqIKSUFdBAzhqHg/edit?hl=en_US
As far as I know once you have been added to edit you are good to go, I've not put any password in place.
No worries, if you need more time, just let me know :)
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Received seeds from Lottie Lou, (a couple of days ago, sorry thought I had posted)
Thank you ;D
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The earlier link on this thread will not let me edit the google doc. I did sign in to google but no joy. Any ideas?
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Ophi, pm me your email address and I'll add you on to edit :)
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8)Thank you
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Several people have been asking to join the seed saving circle. Unfortunately this is full.
However;
I know this is late in the day, but if there are any seed savers who would like to make up another group I’d be happy to add some varieties to the mix. It should be simple enough to run alongside the other group.
Anyone interested?
Can I join please? thanks
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Several people have been asking to join the seed saving circle. Unfortunately this is full.
However;
I know this is late in the day, but if there are any seed savers who would like to make up another group I’d be happy to add some varieties to the mix. It should be simple enough to run alongside the other group.
Anyone interested?
Can I join please? thanks
Hi Bing,
JayB replied to your request upthread, maybe you missed it:
Hi Bing, thanks for the interest but sadly it is too late to join this year as some of the seeds have already been packed and sent in. Hopefully we will be doing another seed circle next year which you could join.
Perhaps you can use the winter months to plan what interesting varieties you can grow for seed saving so that you're ready, come the time for the next swap. You can post any questions you have, or give us some tips!
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Cheers Ceres.
Just waiting for the last parcel to arrive and then they will be off ;D I think it is still far enough ahead of Christmas to post, but if anyone wants me to hold on to theirs until after Christmas, let me know.
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Back with the programme ;D And I appreciate your patience !
roll on Spring for some serious seed sowing ;D
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I got a dead nice parcel today with my handwriting on it.
So many new varieties to try :) Thank you everyone.
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Thanks so much for the lovely package oof seeds I received today. I have hid myself in my bedroom, spreading out the packets and dreaming of happy planting. Thanks so much Jayb and all the contributors.
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How fab is getting that parcel through the post....really excited and thank you Jayb for organising, best christmas present ever.. ;D ;D
Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas :)
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Last time I asked about becoming a member of the seed saving circle [I don't use many seeds] I was informed that my modest growing potential wasn't sufficient for the rigorous requirements of the circle. :'(
I do swap with folk when I have spares but then I end up with things I wouldn't necessarily have chosen. Is there a way out of this loop or are those of us too disabled to do a lot nowadays illegible? Does everyone really save the large quantities of plants I was told were necessary for genetic diversity? How are checks made? I realise I'm whingeing but ......
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Last time I asked about becoming a member of the seed saving circle [I don't use many seeds] I was informed that my modest growing potential wasn't sufficient for the rigorous requirements of the circle. :'(
I do swap with folk when I have spares but then I end up with things I wouldn't necessarily have chosen. Is there a way out of this loop or are those of us too disabled to do a lot nowadays illegible? Does everyone really save the large quantities of plants I was told were necessary for genetic diversity? How are checks made? I realise I'm whingeing but ......
Yes, I am afraid you are whingeing. We are all learning how to save seeds the right way. You were given alternative suggestions of vegetables that are easy to save from and don't require much garden space. You are not too disabled to save seeds from 3 lettuces or 2 tomato plants. You only wanted to save from leeks and nothing else. If you save seed from an outbreeder like leeks, you need to grow a good number of them, say a dozen. Why is it a problem for you to start at the beginning of the seed saving learning process and go with a vegetable that is less difficult? As I recall, nobody said you could not take part in a seed circle. You were given help with seed saving information and technique, which you rejected. And to demand checks for other people who are doing things right to the best of their ability, is really not appropriate. We are all learning and mistakes do happen, but nobody insists on being allowed to make mistakes the way you did. You cannot save good seed from one leek or two and if saving leek seeds is not your thing, then do another vegetable. Taking part in a seed circle does mean that you may well as you put it, 'end up' with things you would not necessarily have chosen. This is unavoidable.
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There's nothing hard about seed saving; start with something easy next year. Leeks aren't hard; save your best dozen plants, and put them together in a corner somewhere where they're out of the way. Let them go to seed - not many people are goiing to do this, so you're unlikely to have problems with outcrossing - and bag the seed heads when they're approaching ripeness. If you end up with something you don't want, pass it on to someone else. You'll always find stuff you do want in these parcels.
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Hi green lily, it's a shame the first group was already full, although if you had wanted to, you would have been welcome to join the extra group which was started some time later.
The circle is based on trust and is a learning experience for us all. Mistakes can happen, that’s life. But in fairness to other participants I think it is important to follow recognised seed saving information and guides, otherwise the quality and purity of our seeds shared will be poor.
It sounds like you were given good advice at the time as some crops are more difficult to save seed from due to the number of plants needed to be grown to keep the gene pool healthy, others are very promiscuous and need to be prevented from cross pollinating to keep the variety pure. Beans, peas, lettuce, tomatoes, seem fairly straight forward.
We will hopefully be starting a new group in the New Year for people who are interested to join. I can see the seed circle is not for everyone, a lot of varieties are shared, each member getting the same selection of seeds. Some seeds may be surplus to an individual’s likes/needs, but this can then be shared with others.
I’m not sure what you are interested in but if you don’t fancy joining the seed circle and only want a few chosen varieties, what about asking in the swap section, or joining in the next seed swap?
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Jayb..about the Green Zebra Cherry tomato...is it cordon? I've tried to google about it, but I can only find 'normal' Green Zebra about.
new addition:
Ah..just found it.. ::) should have added 'cherry' when googling.
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Green_Zebra_Cherry
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Yes a cordon, although in my experience not that tall growing. Seeds were originally sourced from Geckler's.
It's frustrating I've got several things to update and finish off for the circles (hoping to have my puter back tuesday, yayyyyy) I've also started a page so we can have both cirlcles together, hopefully soon? http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Green_Zebra_Cherry