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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: gilgamesh on June 01, 2004, 12:44:05
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It's JUNE so I've potted them up. We have one each of the following varieties in the greenhouse (and there will be others outside - more or less 1 of each).
Christmas Grapes
Banana Cream
Lemon Tree
Vintage Wine
Gardeners Delight
Yellow Plum
America (1980s Spanish seed - supposed to be like Alicante, perhaps?)
Odd unknown one given to my wife at a Bring & Buy
Big Boy
plus, outside, Tumbling Tom in a hanging basket.
I'll keep you posted on results ....
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Well done -you're more adventurous than we are -partly because the packets don't seem to run out.
We have :
Gardeners Delight,
Alicante,
Sungold
2 Balconi Yellow -on a windowsill as we don't have a balcony or even a balconi :)
Jeremy.
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I'm growing five varieties:
Roma
Christmas Grapes
yellow plum
black plum
berner rosen
(the last four thanks to EJ)
I started off with 48 plants, mostly Romas. Gave some away to mum, will give more to mum in law. Most of mine are going to have to brave living outdoors as I only have a mini greenhouse.
I also have a packet of alicante seeds which were free, but I think I have enough to be getting on with!
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I have Riesentraube & Maltese Plum from HSL, Bloody Butcher, Beefeater, Red Star & Latah (from VidaVerde). I think thats the lot.
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Not so many for me,
Good old gardeners delight,
Santa,
Some sown from seeds saved from an Asda baby plum tomato
Nicholaevna pink,
and Tumbling toms in some baskets. :D
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Santa, Harbinger, Red Debaro, Rose de Berne, The John Hawkins, Simpson's Sweet Miracle, Green Zebra, Rudolph. All from Simpson's. = Tim
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Will probably forget one, but...
Christmas grapes
Vintage Wine
Super Marmande
Bosnie
Yellow plum
Black plum
Werner Rosen
Golden Queen
Green Zebra
Unamed beefsteak variety
Unamed bush one from Stephan ;D
Couple of each! Boy oh boy!! Mum and sister have had some, and I snapped a few as I was potting up :-\ but I have plants everywhere!!!
Thanks to Stephan and Ruud for some of the seeds! ;D :-*
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Suddenly, my whole world is full of tomato plants! Despite my own advice to wait another week, I put some out at the weekend - I hope they like the rain...bit worried about the temperature, though....
I'm growing about 40 plants (blight permitting) and the varieties are:
Sun Belle (fab small yellow plum - bite size!)
Big Boy
Big Mama
Big Beef
Moneymaker (I know, I know - but VERY reliable and lovely roasted!)
Marmande
Roma
one each of Black Russian, Caspian Pink and Cherokee Purple (with thanks to Stephan)
Still eating last years crop from the freezer - and joy! Found another bag at the weekend. :D
AC x
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Just one question, :-\
Do the tomatoes that go outside, HAVE to be outdoor ones. Have too many plants for the greenhouse and I just can't bring myself to consign them to the compost bin.
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Almost ALL toms will grow outside - depending on location - unless otherwise specified. Waste nothing!! = Tim
PS But 'beef' ones take an awful time.
PPS Don't we all seem to go for the fancy names? Why?
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I have the following tomatoes,do you have some spare time to read it,growing in the back garden and at my allotment:Golden green,Andes,Heidi,Mano,Sunset red horizon,wonderlight,lescana,evergreen,tigerella,jersey devil,riesentraube,black,brandewine suddutch,isis candy,mexico,rutghers select,ecotipo lungo,black ethiopian,super sweet,cherokee purple,speckled roman,martinos roma,green sausage,tiblisi,hungarian giant,black russian,olirose,vjerino paradijz sjeme,heinz,gold nugget,purple calabash,tomato tree,black plum,green salad,polish potatoleaf,italiaan oxheart and finally pink brandewine that is all foks.
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OK,OK!! That's AT LEAST 160lb of tomatoes. So - you & how many others?? = Tim
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Just the five varieties for us:-
Cristal
Ferline
Ailsa Craig
Sun gold AND
Moneymaker :D Like AC think its reliable and we use it to make lots of sauces for freezing!!
Of course,we have swappsies with other lotties and try other varieties that way.
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Yes, but Ruud, do you really like tomatoes ;D ;) ;D
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- and which do you prefer - for what purpose?? = Tim
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Tim,you can believe it or not but its only me.I shall make some fotos.I like the brandywine types,but i like tomatoes in general.I did a lot of seedswapping with some yanks,and so the ball is rolling.You can say i am collecting different types of tomatoes now.
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Yes but Ruud, what on earth do you do with all those tomatoes ???
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I grow Firline blight resistant tomatoes and that's it.
Had enough of the bloody blight year after year. Too many allotmenteers around who don't dispose of their blighted potato/tomato plants in time, at all or properly.
They did very well last year and great tasting too but last year there was not a lot of blight around so we'll have to see this year how resistant they really are.
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Mimi,i will freeze alot of them and make all kind of things of it for excample my own ketchup.Green ketchup,black ketchupthe kids like it all those colours.I make also a lot of pastasauce and will freeze that too.Than i got a lot of family and neighbours who are found of free tommies and last but not least i need a lot of seed for storage,so i can swap them next winter for other variaties.I have got a trail to a e-mail adress of a block in belgium who has got more than 200 variaties of tomatoes,from him i want to swap some japanese tomatoseeds,thats my next goal for next summer.
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Ina, wonder if your Firline are the same as our Ferline? this is our first year growing this variety so hope we get good results.
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Sadly mine are all boring packets. I WAS going to get some heritage stuff, but just never got around to it, definitely next year - along with my banana melons, etc lol.
SO for me its just 5 varieties - tiny tim bush tomato, gardeners delight, roma, alicante (reliable and tasty), and tigerella - thats as far as I experimented lol.
My experimentation this year is with melons and aubergines on the plot ;) cmon summer! lol
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Ina, wonder if your Firline are the same as our Ferline? this is our first year growing this variety so hope we get good results.
Oops, that was a typo, excuse me.
I did mean Ferline.
A friend sent us the seeds she got from Kitchen Garden Magazine last year for the trial. Not only do they seem resistant to blight and some other nasties like mosaic virus, they are just a very nice tasting, good cropping tomato that is early and also is good for growing outside.
We almost quit growing tomatoes, just had too many disappointments with blight. Like I said before, last year there wasn't much blight around, we'll see what happens this year.
Good luck with yours.
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I am growing...............
Ferline (on Ina's recommendation ;D)
Urbikany (Russian bush variety from Vida Verde seeds)
Sungold
Beefsteak
Gardeners delight
Tigerella
Just a few plants of each variety, looking forward to eating them ;D
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Hi Ruud-if you like `Brandywine` then I reckon you will also like `Caspian Pink` get in touch with me at the end of the season and I will send you some seeds-assuming my plant lives!.
Stephan.
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- and me?? = Tim
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That would be nice stephan,and mayby you want some of mine if you are intrested.Got a lot of american and russian varieties.
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This is my first year growing heirlooms (and my first post here too!). I've got Amish Salad, Golden Roma, Black from Tula, Snow White and Red Fig all in pots waiting for a space either in the greenhouse or garden. Also, I've got some "Pink Jester" growing from seeds I harvested from a M&S tomato, and a completely unknown potato leaf variety that came from Baker Creek Seeds in the US, but with no label on the packet.
Blight-willing, there will be seed to share this autumn. ;D
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Black from Tula is seriously nice- but where can we all grow them?-I have left out a number this year so as to try new ones.
Stephan
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I would be really interested to know what ruud thinks of Purple Calabash. It is believed to be one of the oldest tomato varieties available, claiming little selection from the first varieties brought back to Europe from South America by the Spanish. It has to have been the worst tasting tomato I have ever eaten (although it may simply be unsuitable for my conditions of course)!
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I made a mistake with the ingredients for Red Tomato Chutney and it turned out very good, I'll post it tomorrow if anyones interested. You'll have to ask Stephan what my mum has but they are doing really well and she's delighted! Chezzie
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Money Maker? Is there something I should know? Most of my plants are Money Maker..... You have me worried now.! I was going to use most of them to make the River Cottage Chutney so will they be ok for that?
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Of course! Worry not. Tho' I haven't seen the recipe.
The only time I would think twice would be if plum or yellow toms were specified. = Tim
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i started off with
sungella
cream sausage
but i have a habit of 'rescuing' sad, reduced unlabelled tomatoes from garden centres :D so now i also have
alicante
shirley
an un-named yellow cherry tomato
an un-named plum tomato
got 15 plants in total, all doing nicely now....
i used moneymaker and sungold last year to make the river cottage chutney recipe (well my other half did) and it was great...
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Hi all, :D
Should i panic? having read all your various tomato varieties , noboody has mentioned the ONE i have got, its tigerella a stripy one. Any comments on this variety. (The plants were given to me free by a friend)
Adrian.
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River Cottage Chutney sounds interesting is there a recipe anywhere?
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Chezzie,
I got the recipe out of Hughs book! I will have a look tonight and post tomorrow for you..
Adam
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This is one I found on the web which sounds nice..
3lb green tomatoes
1 lb apples
1 lb courgettes/marrow
1 lb onions
8oz sultanas or raisins
2lb soft brown sugar
1/2 oz salt
1 oz mustard seed
1/2 teaspoon ginger powder
pinch of cayenne
1 pint malt vinegar
Other spices can be substituted, added or omitted, according to what you like and what you have in the cupboard - my chutnies taste different every year!
Finely chop tomatoes, apples (peel and core first), courgette and onion ; I do this in the food processor , but it is successful by hand as well. Place into preserving pan with all other ingredients; bring to boil and simmer until thickened - about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. It is ready when a wooden spoon drawn across it leaves a channel that is slow to fill in across the bottom of the pan. If it thickens up too much before the vegetables are tender, add a little more vinegar. Pot into sterilised jars (I wash them and put them in the oven 10 minutes), seal immediately. Leave to mature for about 2 months before using.
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Thanks Adam, I posted a nice one on the recipe board.
Chezzie
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Thats great! All I need now is a nice Glut of tomatos.. ;)
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Hi Adrian-nothing wrong with Tigerella,it was very popular some time back when featured in a `Chelsea` garden- some chap called Conran/conman/Conan-who cares?.
Now as for `Money Maker`-reliable,good cropper and tastes -----------well taste is not a word I associate with it :-X
Stephan.
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But with all the spices etc - pity to spoil a 'good' tom?? = Tim
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that made me smile Tim ;D
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Well, you know, I'm a Moneymaker fan, cos:
- they grow like mad
- crop well
- and whilst it wouldn't be my choice variety (taste-wise) to eat raw, once roasted in a moderate oven with small sweet home grown shallots, fresh garlic, courgettes and herbs (marjoram for me!) in a good olive oil and seasoned with black pepper and sea salt they are wunderbar! Serve warm with crusty bread for mopping up the juices...mmmm
My vote for flavour goes to Brandywine, Marmande and Sun Belle
AC x 8)
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Adrianhumph I too am growing Tigerella, have grown it before, and think it is great!
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I am growing Santa toms, and only those. If they work out ok, might try some different ones next year.
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The only 'cons' for Santa are that they don't lend themselves to grilling, baking or stuffing. But in every other way they are ace!
Early, good flavour & solid 'meat'. And, frozen, just chuck them in casseroles & they stay intact or, as they thaw, just slip the skins off. V convenient. Can't grow enough for the children. = Tim
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Marmande, Sweet Million, Beefsteak, Gardeners Delight, Tom Thumb hanging basket, Robin, Money Maker and 2 Dutch nameless ones. I have 15 plants outside and it looks like more will end up there!
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Tim, don't go much for the grilling, baking, or stuffing, so I think I will be happy. Salads, salads, and more salads, and if I get enough, a bit of pasta sauce. ;D
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- and they don't 'melt away' in salads - so you'll be OK. = Tim
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Found another one I had forgotten. Hungarian Giant. Sounds good huh. Fingers crossed. ;D Tis amazing how many varieties there are, and how many we are all growing between us.
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EJ - tomato - Muddy Boots - tomato - Stephan - tomato - Tim - tomato - Budgie Breeder - tomato - Moggle - tomato - Adamhill - tomato - Kenkew - tomato....................well you did say between you EJ!
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The Shangri-Las .................. 60's rule ok?
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Moggle-next year try `Principe Borghese` for sauce-it`s very good.
Stephan.