the sub-terms are chemical based companion planting and chemical based trap crops. Due to the preconceived notion that all chemicals are all manufactured products even if the chemical are excreted by the plants themselves during growing process.I choose to include this addendum to avoid confusion since I have been involved several long running debates on the word "chemical "when used in context of gardening. with people who confuse to mean use pesticides,chemical fertilizers and herbicides.
OH calls a swede, a turnip, but then she does come from Hartlepool.
One of the terms that confuse me is 'planting'. Someone says, I have been planting my beans. This to me means planting out or transplanting, but often people mean sowing when they say planting.And then there's "planting" a corpse.
Some don't understand the term "weeding" ;D ;D
Some don't understand the term "weeding" ;D ;D
no one in USA grows Swede now there are those who grow rutabaga
The good old rutabaga cant beat it with the sunday roast, And the USA dont grill they broill their bacon etcActually, some here grow the Gilfeather Turnip which is really a white rutabaga, fine tasting, sweet, and big as a bowling ball (except when grown by me when it is radish-sized ;D)
Thanks for the link, an interesting read.John_Miller mailed me one from Vermont that was huge! The taste was like a sweet (meaning not a strong kohl) cauliflower-taste when cubed and steamed. Not fibrous as all. He gave me seed also but mine look the size of a hefty carrot in thickness, not nearly like his, and some rotted off. But mine didn't get full sun which surely doesn't help. I passed on some seed to real farmers and am eager to see what theirs were like. I haven't been as excited about a new veggie for a long time and hope yours are a happy introduction as well.
I'd forgotten until I read through that I remember seeing swedes in Ireland which they called turnips.
GrannyAnnie I'm growing Gilfeather next year so good to hear description, hope mine get a bit bigger than raddish though :)
I'm growing Gilfeather next year too.. ;D I meant to grow it this year..but as the summer was so dry and it didn't get better for autumn sowing neither I've my seeds and try again when conditions are better.. ;DMaybe we need a Gilfeather competition?
I'm growing Gilfeather next year too.. ;D I meant to grow it this year..but as the summer was so dry and it didn't get better for autumn sowing neither I've my seeds and try again when conditions are better.. ;DMaybe we need a Gilfeather competition?
Er, now I've really hijcked this thread. sorry. will quit before exterminated.
There seems to be a good amount of confusion between turnips, neeps, swedes, rutabaga, personally I like the term mangel wurzels The big sweet yellow/orange fleshed type the size of a football. I haven't seen one for years. Boiled then served with a topping of cheese and black pepper. Lovely until my stomach rebels. Or carved for halloween before someone substituted pumpkins. Wurzel Gummage would be very short of a good head these days perhaps even microcephalic.
There seems to be a good amount of confusion between turnips, neeps, swedes, rutabaga, personally I like the term mangel wurzels The big sweet yellow/orange fleshed type the size of a football. I haven't seen one for years. Boiled then served with a topping of cheese and black pepper. Lovely until my stomach rebels. Or carved for halloween before someone substituted pumpkins. Wurzel Gummage would be very short of a good head these days perhaps even microcephalic.
Fedco Seeds is the only place that carries Gilfeather seeds I believe. And they aren't taking orders anymore this year.I'm growing Gilfeather next year too.. ;D I meant to grow it this year..but as the summer was so dry and it didn't get better for autumn sowing neither I've my seeds and try again when conditions are better.. ;DMaybe we need a Gilfeather competition?
Er, now I've really hijcked this thread. sorry. will quit before exterminated.
Please don't - we don't 'do' turnip in our house but we do 'do' kohl rabi - but a turnip that is less of a turnip is definitely of interest [sweet cauli taste sounds great]. I wonder if anyone is saving these for the Circle. If not now, then maybe next year.
Fedco Seeds is the only place that carries Gilfeather seeds I believe. And they aren't taking orders anymore this year.
personally I like the term mangel wurzels The big sweet yellow/orange fleshed type the size of a football. Now would wurzels be same swedes?Well after opening mouth and suggesting a competition I went to google the seeds....<note to self:think before opening mouth> they are copywritten or whatever it is called for plants ::) and have been for years.Fedco Seeds is the only place that carries Gilfeather seeds I believe. And they aren't taking orders anymore this year.
With one hand she gives, and with the other she takes away. ;)
Maybe Goodlife, crafty sneaky little devil she is, will be successful growing seeds :o (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil10.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)..who..me?(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) ;)
the very same.Code: [Select]Maybe Goodlife, crafty sneaky little devil she is, will be successful growing seeds:o (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-devil10.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)..who..me?(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic006.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) ;)
Pairing of negative companion plants should be avoid and depending the effect buffers plants or distance separation should used to plant away from each other.
What's the difference?do you mean difference between intercropping and companion planting?
It has me confused and I thought I knew the answer. Believe us-- this sentence begs a re-write, plainleaf.Pairing of negative companion plants should be avoid and depending the effect buffers plants or distance separation should used to plant away from each other.
Yep - that should have confused every gardener on the planet! ;D
preceded benefit productionas well. Precede means to go in front of or come first or outrank. Do you mean perceived? Though that does not fit in the sentence either.
I'm a bit confused byOr "for their perceived production benefit??Quotepreceded benefit productionas well. Precede means to go in front of or come first or outrank. Do you mean perceived? Though that does not fit in the sentence either.
What's the difference?
What's the difference?it is a bit of a vague question.
guess have remember not to type on 2 screens at once while drinking hot liquids, one computer at a time instead of 2.Oh...that is asking for the trouble. I've got enough to manage with one screen, mouse, earphones, coffee, notebad and biscuits.. ;D..other week I did manage to know the coffee all over and get everything on my messy desk wet and in the 'not fully closed' draws.. ::) What a mess it was..good thing is..that my desk is now dust free and much tidier.Surely it was only the biscuits that was the last straw, goodlife ;DCode: [Select]guess have remember not to type on 2 screens at once while drinking hot liquids, one computer at a time instead of 2.Oh...that is asking for the trouble. I've got enough to manage with one screen, mouse, earphones, coffee, notebad and biscuits.. ;D..other week I did manage to know the coffee all over and get everything on my messy desk wet
Code: [Select]guess have remember not to type on 2 screens at once while drinking hot liquids, one computer at a time instead of 2.Oh...that is asking for the trouble. I've got enough to manage with one screen, mouse, earphones, coffee, notebad and biscuits.. ;D..other week I did manage to know the coffee all over and get everything on my messy desk wet and in the 'not fully closed' draws.. ::) What a mess it was..good thing is..that my desk is now dust free and much tidier.
I've got bad habit getting piles of notes and scribbles amount.. :-X
Lishka instead of biweeky or a fortnightly.
I would just write "every two weeks" which should translate the same in both type uk and usa.
.breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, tea...in that order.Where does HIGH TEA fit in? We say that here to be funny while serving up a cup of tea and a cookie.
When first moved to UK..my OH was having 'dinner' during day and 'tea' in late afternoon/evening....I used to scream NOO!..breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, tea...in that order..untill the penny dropped that is is local lingo...now when I'm talking, I'm having 'dinner' and 'tea' in wrong order too.. ;DHow about some of the Norwegian words for meals!! You'll never guess what "lunsj" could mean!! and it is, indeed , lunch but the word for dinner (eaten late afternoon/ evening) is "middag" meaning midday!!
as in turfs? ;)
Where does HIGH TEA fit in? We say that here to be funny while serving up a cup of tea and a cookie.
Whoopsie..I got it totally wrong..high tea sounds very posh..I just googled Images of "High Tea" and it showed very fine little cakes and sweet things dolled up with whippedcream and cherries and ganishes galore etc on multi-tiered serving plates--that's why we think it is a joke when we serve only a cup of tea and a cookie from the cookie jar and proudly announce "It is "High Tea time" I guess serving it at 10:30 AM is also incorrect.
"High Tea Basics
Traditionally, high tea was a working class meal served on a high table at the end of the workday, shortly after five PM. It was a heavy meal of meat dishes (such as steak and kidney pie), fish dishes (such as pickled salmon), baked goods (such as crumpets or, in Ireland, barm brack), vegetables (such as potatoes or onion cakes), and other heavy foods (such as baked beans and cheesy casseroles).
High tea was more of a working class family meal than an elite social gathering."
I'm trying to picture balancing a full plate on one's knees on a sofa! Or is your "parlour" same as a dining room with table?
I had friends who had high tea at about 5pm which was meat and two veg but served with bread and butter and a mug of tea followed by pudding eaten with a spoon....This was eaten in the parlour.
I just googled Images of "High Tea" and it showed very fine little cakes and sweet things dolled up with whippedcream and cherries and ganishes galore etc on multi-tiered serving plates--that's why we think it is a joke when we serve only a cup of tea and a cookie from the cookie jar and proudly announce "It is "High Tea time" I guess serving it at 10:30 AM is also incorrect.What you describe sounds more like what I know as afternoon tea (not in the Ritz I hasten to add!!)
In restaurants I think it is just for the convenience of the cook- easy to put out on the table and folks have something to nibble on until the hot main dishes arrive.
GrannyAnnie or any other US contributor....why is salad eaten in the US BEFORE the main dishes, please? Here it's served (if it is at all) AFTER the main dishes have been consumed.
:) :) :)
Grew squashes this year, but not pumpkins. I tend to only grow those biennially, in succession....
:) :) :)
Grew squashes this year, but not pumpkins. I tend to only grow those biennially, in succession....
When I was a child Dinner was had at lunchtime.Tea was the main evening meal.
Imagine how confused I was when I went out into the big wide world...........but
everybody had school dinners :-\
Our local hotel does High tea,lovely delicate finger sarnies and cake........leaving no room for your tea LOL
My OH makes marmite on toast for supper when peckish, always gives me a little nibble :-*Whenever I hear marmite on toast the picture that pops into my mind is of a young ground squirrel on toast.
Marmite...(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick009.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)...(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)....(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick029.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php);D ;D ;D
Haha I am enjoying this thread. It has been well and truly hi-jacked in a manner that fits in with the title but not the original intent. It is now much more interesting - and the OP has gone quiet! ;)
Is this a private hi-jack, or can anyone join in?
Is this a private hi-jack, or can anyone join in?Trevor you're always welcome, but, as
Marmite...(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick009.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)...(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)....(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick029.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
This thread has become quite educational.
I find it interesting that English has changed very little over the past 400 years in comparison to the changes in language in the previous 400.
There seems to be more differences n language between myself and plainleaf than between myself and every other American I have conversed with.I think conversations online are inevitably and intrinsically more "difficult" than face-to-face conversations since so many of the non-linguistic cues which we need for comprehension are missing. Also some of us are better than others at putting our thoughts down "on paper" grammatically and properly spelt. I don't think any of us have mastered that yet!!
My OH makes marmite on toast for supper when peckish, always gives me a little nibble :-*I'm just finishing a slice... having made some for OH for breakfast before she goes out to work... :P
"My OH makes marmite on toast for supper when peckish, always gives me a little nibble"
"I'm just finishing a slice... having made some for OH for breakfast before she goes out to work... " Gosh..you lot know how to punish you OHs..if you wipe their mouths as well afterwards, it don't leave any evidence that some domestic violence has taken place.. or is it attempted poisoning... ;)
there is a big revival in Cake plates,stands and bone china tea sets. Yes..I've noticed that in shops with new stuff too...lot of lookalikes from the times gone by. All the retro and oldie world stuff is everywhere. I love to see them but I've never tempted to buy..they just end up standing in cupboard unused.. ::)Back on topic, another for Plainleaf.
Will you be having a 'Herbs' (pronounced 'Erbs' - why? Oh Ok, I pronounce 'hotel' as 'otel.) Section. If you do, for the UK market, please can you clearly state that cilantro is also known as coriander?
And for the cooks - have you ever seen Knorr cilantro (coriander) cubes? Brilliant they are, teensy mini-cubes, 20 in a box, and very flavoursome. I cleared the store shelves of them to bring back. On special offer - 20 cents a box. My US bargain 8)
Lishka
Back on topic, another for Plainleaf.
Will you be having a 'Herbs' (pronounced 'Erbs' - why?
Back on topic, another for Plainleaf.
Will you be having a 'Herbs' (pronounced 'Erbs' - why? Oh Ok, I pronounce 'hotel' as 'otel.) Section. If you do, for the UK market, please can you clearly state that cilantro is also known as coriander?
And for the cooks - have you ever seen Knorr cilantro (coriander) cubes? Brilliant they are, teensy mini-cubes, 20 in a box, and very flavoursome. I cleared the store shelves of them to bring back. On special offer - 20 cents a box. My US bargain 8)
Lishka
.. now to add the post, as an edit!! ::)
Sounds like an excellent plan to me. By the time I've bought the seeds, sowed them, planted them out, cut off the leaves, chopped them up, frozen them in ice cube trays ............
don't know why I bother!!
Oh goodie! Maybe it will catch on in the USA. Getting rid of mugs here would be a nice step up. I've held to having my tea or coffee in a true china teacup with saucer. Like the gentle clatter of cup on saucer whereas mugs just go <clunk> ;D
It may interest you to know that I work in an Antique Centre and there is a big revival in Cake plates,stands and bone china tea sets.The sort Granny had in he display cabinet in the parlour.................
Betula how do you cope working in an antique shop?
when I worked in a cactus nursery I could spend most of my wages there ;D
(Just had marmite on toast :D)
So thankful I didn't have to learn English as a second languageActually English is not so difficult to learn. Even I still have 'pull my hair out' with some of the terms and words..it is still much easier that some other languages that I've had a go over the years.So tell us: who did invent English muffins? Don't tell me the Scots did that also.
Sat next to a cosy fire..........lovely :)
USA cup cake
UK Fairy cake......at least it was....we ae all talking cup cake now ;D
Is that like fruitcake in UK English??Sat next to a cosy fire..........lovely :)
USA cup cake
UK Fairy cake......at least it was....we ae all talking cup cake now ;D
Then there's: "That Lishka, she's quite a cupcake!"
Is that like fruitcake in UK English??hahaha,sounds like our Lish ;D
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[/quoteIs that like fruitcake in UK English??hahaha,sounds like our Lish ;D
only edible fruit cakes are made in Texas by Collin Street.
the rest are just door stops and paper weights.
What are the ingredients in your DeLuxe® Fruitcake?
Ingredients: pecans, cherries, corn syrup, sugar, flour, pine-apple, raisins, eggs, invert sugar, honey, liquid soybean oil & hydrogenated soybean oil, papaya, water, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup solids, orange peel, natural and artificial flavor, sulphur dioxide, red #40, blue #1, tumeric (color)
Now you've got me craving chocolate ;DQuote from: grawrc link=topic=69801.msg711170#msg711170 datethere's: "That Lishka, she's quite a cupcake!"
[/quoteIs that like fruitcake in UK English??hahaha,sounds like our Lish ;D
OI! you lot. Cut it out!
Cadbury's fruit'n'nutcase I'll accept, tho ;D
Well I made a right pig's tab off that :-[ :-[ :-[
Old bone china tea sets.........the fashion at the moment is for Brides to hold a Pre wedding tea....complete with all old fashioned tea cups,cake plates etc and that lovely old emboidered linen......tablecloths etc.
Never use an embroided table cloth when having beetroot for tea ;) ;) ;)
Bottom drawersMy bottom drawers have got larger with age :o ;D
I think that might be a degree more of information than we need ..... :PBottom drawersMy bottom drawers have got larger with age :o ;D
Search on here, Anne, there's a lovely one of Jeannine's ;DThanks Mal! I've copied it into my recipe folder. Now could anyone save me a google and explain the intricacies of measurements in cups? Preferably in grams or even in pounds and ounces!! Pretty please!
got it
Banana Muffins. Makes 12 huge muffins in the big American muffin cases
I think that might be a degree more of information than we need ..... :PBottom drawersMy bottom drawers have got larger with age :o ;D
Lish that sounds wonderful ;DI particularly like the old Tuscan china brand,they have some wonderful patterns.
Do you know that the ladies of south Korea particularly like the cloths with the crinoline lady embroidered upon them,have no idea why.They also like petit point candlesticks so if you have a set of those cherish them.
Sorry, Anne, been mother in law sitting today, I think its 8 ozs to a cup, if you want metric, don't ask me, I'm still working in pounds, shillings and pence ;DThanks for that Mal! I'll give it a go. It's the possible discrepancy between volume and weight that perplexes me. e.g. two identical cups of flour can have different weights so if the recipe calls for 1 cup of flour, is it the cup that weighs 8 oz or the cup that weighs 10?
Antique shops amaze me... or rather the things in them do. My OH loves poking around in them.
Why people would want some of the old junk in their homes today when often it's the sort of thing we threw out years ago (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/blink.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) I don't know.
"We" have a box of Torquay Ware somewhere or other collected over a few years until "we" decided it was in the way. Interesting I suppose but I'd soonerlook atadmire it and leave it for someone else to dust. ::) ;D
Anyone an avid Antique hunter? Money in it if you know what you're doing I guess.
Anyone else a Simon's cat lover, btw?
Does this thread get the prize for the greatest number of topics covered that are nothing to do with the title?No, I think the prize for that goes to Trixiebelle's General Chitter Chatter and his sidekick Captain Claptrap"
Does anybody do tai chi?...no, not a gardening term neither.. ;D
I'm just trying to cover more topics.. ;D
Then on THIS website I'm always puzzling, scratching my head over your: postie, sammi, bickie, botti ...everyone ending in ie...sounds like toddlers talking ;D
Love that cartoon! My pet hate is the 'Drive thru' signs that McDonald's and KFC exhibit, I sat in the car waiting for OH the other week near one and contemplated with 14 yr old son how difficult it would be to climb up there and correct the spelling........ ;D
Then on THIS website I'm always puzzling, scratching my head over your: postie, sammi, bickie, botti ...everyone ending in ie...sounds like toddlers talking ;D
Has anyone else tried reading this thread backwards?
It's even funnier ;D
Does this thread get the prize for the greatest number of topics covered that are nothing to do with the title?
which witch was which.;D Love it.
What is a Sammi? I know about Sarnie and Lottie, and I thought that posty was spelt with a y.All I could guess was Sammi is nickname for a sandwich maybe??
Does anyone know the American equivalent of the expression to kick someone in the teeth?Quotewhich witch was which.;D Love it.
Does anyone have problems typing with their hands in the wrong position on the key board.
Hey! This thing about spelling. In these days of teachers not properly correcting childrens' spellings
Hey! This thing about spelling. In these days of teachers not properly correcting childrens' spellings
Sit on the settee and have it next to you.....much easier apart from my westie who likes to stand on the key board ;D
Hey! This thing about spelling. In these days of teachers not properly correcting childrens' spellings
(Just between the two of us!!)
If you're going to make controversial statements like that on a forum with teachers present, check your spelling first!!! Hehe!! ;D ;D ;D :P :P
Dammit I was going to conceal the bottom part but I've forgotten how! ;D ::)
Ya-boo sucks to you too. So wot's the difference between 'spelling' and 'punctuation' then Miss?
Enquiring Smart-Ar*se pupil needs to know :P ;D
Sit on the settee and have it next to you.....much easier apart from my westie who likes to stand on the key board ;D
Betula, shouldn't one set on a settee?
I'm off to, well, do a bit of lounging on it. I know my place. 8) (and that's me lounging with sunglasses on)Lishka the Lounge Lizard.
Hey! This thing about spelling. In these days of teachers not properly correcting childrens' spellings
Hey! This thing about teachers! I used to give my year 2's 10 spellings a week to learn, tested every Friday morning, sticker charts for success, they loved it. I had to make sure the Head wasn't around to see me, though.... ???
explain please.......off to work now xSorry for not answering sooner Den. I disappeared off to my plot but, unlike you, forgot to mention it!! It was really just a reply to using "set" rather than "sit", but once I typed "I'd settle for sit", I had a Dr Seuss moment which led to "not sit on the settle" (which of course kind of contradicts what I was really saying). ::)
explain please.......off to work now xI was in a bit of a frivolous mood yesterday for some reason. :-[ :-[
;D..this tread is finding new terms for the veg growing...sex change, leeks from from front end.. :-X ;D
Trouble with kippers and curtains is the lingering eau de kipper ;D
Don't you mean I'll go to the foot of our stairs @ aden. Also a Jethro Tull song lol
Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs.
Old gentlemen talk of when they were young
of ladies lost and erring sons.
Sat on my settee watching Strictly.........eating After Eights.
I'll go to foot of ours stairs - to me this meant "that's something of a surprise to me"
Fur coat and no knickers-- well that sort of "mutton dressed as lamb" , definatly a slur on a ladies's character :-[ :o :o :o
You do not hear these sayings much these days ???
Go and play up you own end.
That was a common cry from adults when we were kids ;D
sorry - is there a limit to the length of posts? 'It' wouldn't let me continue.
So to carry on. Things you'd rather not hear...
11am flight Heathrow to NC. On-target for an 11am lift-off. Plane starts to slowly move away from the Airport terminal. And stops. An announcement is made that a leak of hydraulic fluid has been seen from the "front end"so we were going back to base for the engineers to take a "look-see" Whew! Glad that was spotted, I thought..And so the minutes pass. And an hour goes by. And then some more minutes. Finally, two hours later the 1st Officer makes his announcement as we start moving off again - "Well folks I can tell you that the engineers have said that, apparently, they've got it fixed." Apparently? APPARENTLY? A-BLOODY-PARENTLY?
But then the chief pilot come on with an amended statement, the A-word this time omitted ;D ;D ;D
Kea -
She often prefers not to listen to me but to talk at me. ::)
Kea - I have a sister who tends to react a little "unexpectedly". At the age of 50 you'd have thought she'd given up jumping up and down on the spot to get her own way. ::)This reminds me of a friend who often says quite outrageous things to make himself feel superior (well this is my interpretation anyway). His family emigrated from Britain several generations ago and he said to us (who were hosting him at the time in Britain!), that everybody with any sort of 'get up and go' had long left Britain and those that are living in Britain now are a bit quaint, backward and timid. He did not even realise that this might just be a bit inappropriate? Whilst helping me dry the dishes - did I say he is a nice and helpful guy ??? - he proceded to tell me how much more hygienic my dishes would be if I had a dishwasher and everything would be washed at higher temperatures. In the garden, after offering to help, he told me that my composting is all wrong too and in his home in Texas, it is done a different way. He even offered to send me instructions, so that I could learn how to do it properly ;D. Needless to say he disapproves of most things we say or do that is different to his ways, whilst somehow trying to remain a friend who would (probably) give his last shirt for us. There's nowt as queer as folk!
Kea - I have a sister who tends to react a little "unexpectedly". At the age of 50 you'd have thought she'd given up jumping up and down on the spot to get her own way. ::)This reminds me of a friend who often says quite outrageous things to make himself feel superior (well this is my interpretation anyway). His family emigrated from Britain several generations ago and he said to us (who were hosting him at the time in Britain!), that everybody with any sort of 'get up and go' had long left Britain and those that are living in Britain now are a bit quaint, backward and timid. He did not even realise that this might just be a bit inappropriate? Whilst helping me dry the dishes - did I say he is a nice and helpful guy ??? - he proceded to tell me how much more hygienic my dishes would be if I had a dishwasher and everything would be washed at higher temperatures. In the garden, after offering to help, he told me that my composting is all wrong too and in his home in Texas, it is done a different way. He even offered to send me instructions, so that I could learn how to do it properly ;D. Needless to say he disapproves of most things we say or do that is different to his ways, whilst somehow trying to remain a friend who would (probably) give his last shirt for us. There's nowt as queer as folk!