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Title: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 14, 2008, 11:50:31
1. The Florist's standby greenery?

2. A treelike Thing which has appeared in the border?
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 14, 2008, 12:16:58
1_ pittosporum tenuifolium

2no idea. Looks like lemon verbena, but you'd have noticed the smell!
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 14, 2008, 18:00:52
No1 - of COURSE!!

No2 - yes, very alike but, as you say, no smell. And the leaves are alternate.
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: sarah on September 14, 2008, 18:15:25
could the second be a buddlea ? (never can spell it)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 14, 2008, 21:10:25
Re plant 2, is it the green plant or the silver plant you are asking about?  Not that I've much idea about either. :-[

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: kenkew on September 14, 2008, 21:22:18
Don't know it off hand and it's not in my 'Little books' an' my neighbour's got my 'Big Book of Everything' an' it's after 10PM and he has a big dog so I'm not going round there tonight.
 (Might have a go at it tomorrow)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: lavenderlux on September 14, 2008, 21:30:02
I think the green plant in the second picture could be a 'willow' and if you have mature willow trees in your neighbourhood, it could be a self sown seedling, as willows seeds blow everywhere.

Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: gardenqueen on September 14, 2008, 23:22:45
2) definately a buddlea seedling
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 15, 2008, 08:17:32
Good tries - & thanks!

But.......here it is with Buddleia & Willow.

Valmarg - the green one.
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: gardenqueen on September 15, 2008, 19:40:28
Having looked up various varieties of buddlea in my RHS book, if it's not Lemon Verbena, it could possibly be the white flowered variety of buddlea, called Peace!
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 15, 2008, 19:58:57
there's no alternative -

Woodman, spare that shrub! touch not a single bough....til we can see some flowers
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 15, 2008, 20:03:53
Bit young for flowers yet, but I'll watch out!
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: dtw on September 15, 2008, 20:08:16
Could it be a pomegranate from a discarded seed?
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 16, 2008, 11:37:28
Watch this space!!
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: gardenqueen on September 16, 2008, 12:08:34
Don't think I can wait till spring, Tim! grrr The suspenses is killing me! lol If you would care to send me a piece I could take it to my local horticultural college 1/2 mile down the road from me. Only a thought! lol
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: calendula on September 16, 2008, 16:30:11
I thought it was rose bay willow herb  :-\
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: saddad on September 16, 2008, 18:03:54
It doesn't look like my dwarf pomegranate... any nasty sharp terminals or spurs?
 :-\
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 16, 2008, 18:10:57
it does look like a willow, and it does look a little like Rosebay Willowherb. Who fancies doing some reverse engineering and looking up all the salicifoliums?
Something for the winter evenings  :D
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: gardenqueen on September 16, 2008, 18:23:22
I think you have just volunteered!  ::)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Barnowl on September 16, 2008, 18:25:29
I thought it was rose bay willow herb  :-\

So did I - very invasive
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 16, 2008, 19:06:04
I think you have just volunteered!  ::)

I usually spend the winter under the cloud of SAD. That would probably send me over the edge  :D
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Tyke on September 17, 2008, 08:29:14
Liquorice??
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 17, 2008, 19:48:18
I thought it was rose bay willow herb  :-\
So did I - very invasive
No definitely not.  I did say in my earlier post that I'd not much idea, but having driven from here to Ashbourne this morning, the local rose bay willow herb has flowered, and the seeds are being blown about.

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 17, 2008, 19:50:32
Gardenqueen - yes please??
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 18, 2008, 14:31:54
Having looked in my 'library' ;D I would tend to agree with Tyke - liquorice, aka glycyrrhiza glabra.

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 18, 2008, 16:00:08
If that's liquorice then i'm a ray of sunshine.......... :D

Tim's leaves are alternate and liquorice leaves are opposite (foe a start)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: calendula on September 18, 2008, 16:27:23
 ;D

my second choice, after a young rose bay willow herb, would be a Weigela seedling - what I can see of the stems in Tim's picture also look right as well  :)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 18, 2008, 19:51:10
If that's liquorice then i'm a ray of sunshine.......... :D

Well, I was basing my guess on feminine logic.  Tyke = Yorkshireman.  Liquorice is grown in Yorkshire, ie Pontefract cakes.  I thought Tyke may have had insider information. ;D ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: saddad on September 18, 2008, 19:56:22
There is a white form of Rosebay willow herb... it is taking over in one of the NGS gardens in North Derby... , even I want some!  :-[
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Tyke on September 18, 2008, 19:59:49
Lol! Sorry to mislead you into thinking i had insider knowledge. i've never actually seen a liquorice plant. The liquorice plants were all made redundant at the same time as the coal mines were shut...

I happened to be reading a book on herbs, that had a photo of one that looked very similar. Leaves not pointy enough either as i found out after i used google images....
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 19, 2008, 18:12:15
Ah well Tyke, back to the drawing board. ???  In that case I really, really have no idea. ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on September 19, 2008, 18:25:13
this could go on til next Summer  :D
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: calendula on September 19, 2008, 18:45:27
it might need to so that it flowers and we can put this to rest  ;D

could even be a fuchsia seedling

Tim, if you are still reading these ideas you need to look around your own garden and any nearby so as to have a better idea  :)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 19, 2008, 21:16:21
could even be a fuchsia seedling
No, as a fuchsia grower, most definitely not.

I should have to say, despite my posts, I'm beginning to lose interest.

The emoticon that is missing is a big yawn. ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: tim on September 20, 2008, 08:57:35
Sorry to bore you - wait till Gardenqueen says I can send her a sample?
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: valmarg on September 20, 2008, 19:41:50
Sorry, Tim it's not boredom, more impatience. ;D ;D

valmarg
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: gardenqueen on September 24, 2008, 16:35:43
ok folks Tim is sending me a sample so hopefully all will be resoved soon. Nettie
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: fluffygrue on October 11, 2008, 12:14:02
I have a Hebe growing in my garden that looks a lot like that.. I thought it was a willow for quite a while. Can't remember the variety, but it has white willow-stylee flowers. Just a suggestion. :)
Title: Re: Naming help, please?
Post by: hellohelenhere on October 15, 2008, 00:57:29
It looks rather like the unusual buddleia that I've been trying to name, and Valmarg suggests is buddleia lindleyana, see the thread:
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,46245.0.html

Having not seen one as a plantlet, I can't say, but the adult leaves are a darkish, glossy green (by buddleia standards), and soft and grey underneath. Apparently this can sucker to long distances, e.g. 10ft from the parent plant - do you have a buddleia of that description nearby? Doesn't look like rosebay to me, nor willow. (Preparing to eat my hat, of course...)
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