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Title: New lottie owner
Post by: jchapman on January 22, 2004, 15:13:37
Just got my first lottie this week and can't wait to start growing things :). I wanted to post a piccy of it but couldn't work out how ???. Hubby came to look at it this week and noticed that the trees on one side of it(it's an end plot) would shade some ot the lottie. He's made me all worried now and i'm worried that nothing will grow there. It's been used up till sept last and still has cerely and broccoli growing there.

Any advice grately received :)

jo
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Doris_Pinks on January 22, 2004, 16:40:25
Jo, mine is bordered on 2 sides with trees! But you have to remember in the summer the sun is higher, and you get part of the lottie in the sun, usually! Mine looses the sun at lunch time, but I still manage to grow most things! And my runner bean row is right on the end of my lottie so it doesn't  uneccesarily shade anything else.
Enjoy your plot, something will grow! and beware, it is addictive :-)  Dotti P.
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: aquilegia on January 22, 2004, 16:44:26
agree with DP - My garden (I'm not lucky enough to have a lottie) is in total shade for most of the day this time of the year, but in spring and summer it's in the sun for most of the day.

and welcome to the board!
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: rdak on January 22, 2004, 16:51:19
Hi Jo,

Maybe ask your neighbours what was grown on that part of the allotment before...but then of course crop rotation best practice normally means you shouldn't grow that same crop there again this year!

If it's shady in summer, probably best to avoid tomatoes,peppers and such like as they like lots of sun.
I'm sure you'd get a reasonable crop of most other stuff.

If the trees are deciduous, there are crops that can be started in autumn- Gavin's page has a great calendar to show you

http://www.keirg.freeserve.co.uk/diary/tech/calendar.htm

you could always try some green manures or sacrificial crops that won't be very productive but may draw the pests away from the good stuff.

Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Piglet on January 22, 2004, 21:30:20
I would recommend sowing crops that dont like full sun i.e. lettuces etc. in that area and using it to your advantage.  

I have a shady spot on my plot and thats where I plant mine.

Best of luck
Piglet.
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Garden Manager on January 23, 2004, 00:55:05
Strangely enough i find things like potatoes and courgettes do well in a shadier spot.  Courgettes i find dont like it really sunny and hot, as i discovered last summer!
Peas too dont do too badly, but not runners as they like atleast 8 hours of sun a day during the growing season.

Part of my plottie (garden veg plot) is next to a tall hedge which casts shade over part of the plot. I am geting to know what grows well in this position.
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Fingle.... on January 23, 2004, 13:23:12
any idea what the colour codes mean on that calendar link ??   ???
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: The gardener on January 23, 2004, 15:25:46
Regarding the shade issue.

As a rule of thumb anything that produces its end result from a flower is best planted in full sun.

Other things that don't originate from a flower will generally do OK in shade or partial shade.

e.g. Peas & Beans are from a flower so require sunshine, lettuce & rootcrops are not so fussy.
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: cleo on January 23, 2004, 16:00:03
All sound stuff,just check which side the trees are-North,East etc-that will give some idea of where the shade will be when.

Stephan.
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: gavin on January 24, 2004, 02:10:06
Oh b....r - and thank you, Fingle, for pointing it out --- I'll add the key to the calendar tomorrow or Sunday.  In the meantime, if you look at the individual vegetable pages, the key is the same.

Apologies - I was so tied up in getting the layout and navigation right that I missed that one (and probably a fair few other obvious errors as well!).

All best - Gavin
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Ceri on January 24, 2004, 09:33:10
Gavin, your website has a lot to answer for you know.... I was working towards thinking about possibly might one day get an allotment - found your website  - down the lottie society and council the next day - so all my blisters are your fault!
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: MissBaritone on January 24, 2004, 12:36:17
Quote
Gavin, your website has a lot to answer for you know.... I was working towards thinking about possibly might one day get an allotment - found your website  - down the lottie society and council the next day - so all my blisters are your fault!


i agree. I was quite happy growing a few vegetables in my little pocket size garden till I found this site. I rang my council on the Monday, by Wednesday I had 1 very large overgrown lottie. It's all your fault Gavin
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: busy_lizzie on January 24, 2004, 15:53:41
Good Luck with your Allotment, Miss Baritone!  I know how excited we felt last year when we took over ours. Also hope you had a very happy birthday on the 21st. which is the same date as my husbands.  :D  busy_lizzie
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: gavin on January 24, 2004, 23:01:12
Must check my shares in Radox  :) :) :)

Good luck both of you - Gavin

And thank you again, Fingle, for pointing out my mistake!  Key to the calendar now added  :) :)  

I'm certain there are lots of other mistakes I've made in various places - if you spot anything, please do let me know!

All best - Gavin
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Fingle.... on January 26, 2004, 14:03:51
got the allotment last week.....got a bath installed this week !! (at home...not at the lottie)...perfect timing...i feel like im made of Oak at the moment

(no probs gavin...nice site)
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: Fingle.... on January 26, 2004, 14:06:59
erm.....Still no key ???

http://www.keirg.freeserve.co.uk/diary/tech/calendar.htm
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: gavin on January 26, 2004, 17:05:20
::) ::) ::) ::)  Scratches head  ::) ::) ::) ::)  Curses softly ??? ??? ??? ???

It is there honest!  At least, I hope it is - it certainly works on my browsers - let me try this ----> you should be seeing this for each section.
(http://www.keirg.freeserve.co.uk/diary/grfx/key2.gif).

(I've managed (I think) to get it to print off each veg family on a separate sheet in modern browsers? - works on mine again)

All best, Gavin
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: tim on January 26, 2004, 20:59:24
artistic! = Tim
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: flowerbaby_uk on January 26, 2004, 21:17:20
works on mine too :)
Title: Re: New lottie owner
Post by: gavin on January 26, 2004, 22:47:03
Aaah - thank you!  - Gavin   :) :) :) again.
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