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Title: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 28, 2014, 06:55:47
Not nice is it.  I don't think I have felt so rough before . Went to bed and woke up two hours later, sweating shaking, aching and yelling down the big white telephone. Made it through the night only to find I could not walk and my leg was twice its normal size. Hopefully the anti wotsits will clear it up, if not into the hospital for some serious injections if it spreads past the lines drawn on my leg.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on October 28, 2014, 07:02:24
Have you got some painkillers  Ace? Hopefully the antibiotics will kick in soon in the mean time rest and elevate.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 28, 2014, 07:30:20
Nothing seems to work. I do have some high powered capsules left over from another ailment. But they might just mess things up even more.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: goodlife on October 28, 2014, 07:46:54
Oh dear. I hope you get help quickly and get better soon!

I just had to google about cellulitis..had kind of idea but didn't know much about it....
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 28, 2014, 08:20:59
Not nice at all.  I am rather prone to it.  They insisted that I have leg above your heart.  It can be very difficult to shift.

Sometimes they can do the injections at home.  Nurse came and did the intraveneous bit.   

I had antibiotic for eight weeks.  Do look after yourself.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 28, 2014, 10:52:03
It's very painful. Keep your leg elevated, take the antibiotics and ask for some painkillers.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: antipodes on October 28, 2014, 14:06:29
ah yuck! Looks just horrible! Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 28, 2014, 19:33:59
Forget don't forget plenty to drink, and sorry no alcohol. :BangHead:



Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: SamLouise on October 28, 2014, 20:52:48
That'll teach me to google image it  :icon_puke_l:

Must be quite frightening to those suffering so here's wishing it doesn't hang around too long! Do as your told (inc no alcohol!)  :sad4:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 29, 2014, 06:33:34
First food since Saturday. Only a pear smoothy but that terrible ache has gone. Big problem now I have lost the use of my leg, I am moving around on a wheeled office chair as the silly cheap walking stick collapsed, sent me crashing through the mattress on the bed breaking a few slats. I will have to get the doc in on a home visit and see if some injections will work. I would not wish this on my worst enemy.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Jayb on October 29, 2014, 07:25:01
Hope this starts improving and you get some relief very soon, maybe you need stronger or different meds to get it under check?
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: grannyjanny on October 29, 2014, 07:33:48
Take care Ace. Nasty. SiL gets it & it's a bugger for her to shift.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 29, 2014, 08:18:17
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I will have to get the doc in on a home visit
  Not sure they do this any more.   :BangHead:

I had to drive 25 minutes to local hospital, and then drive back with a cannula in my arm so the nurse could come and do the intravenous on subsequent days. 

I have always been told to try and keep walking even if it is just a few steps.  Keep exercising gently.

It seems to make me sensitive to things, I ended up allergic to everything,  I had to change all my toiletries and home cleaning products to non allergic types.

IF you ever have the problem again you need to get to the hospital emergency dept or small injury unit asap even if it is the middle of the night.  The sooner you start the medication the better.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 29, 2014, 08:52:42
You could not make it up. Rang 111 for advice after all the questions I was told to ring my local health centre and get them to see me within two hours. They are a bit lax on answering the phone so mother popped around to tell them. Nobody availiable until 4. oclock. they rang me before she got back and told me to get around there in the next hour. They already knew I was immobile and it would be very very difficult, Hissing down with rain, cant get a shoe on, cant even get trousers on. How the feck I am going to get there god knows. They don't even have a wheelchair  we could borrow.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on October 29, 2014, 09:12:18
I would ring 999 and get the paramedics to take you into A & E. If you can't get to the surgery it is an emergency.  Your surgery sounds useless
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Paulines7 on October 29, 2014, 10:37:56
I have just seen this thread and I am so sorry that you are going through so much, Ace.  It sounds a nasty thing to have.  I had never heard of the condition before and had to google it. 

I hope you can get help soon. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on October 29, 2014, 17:53:16
Oh dear Ace. I hope that you post again with some better news.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 29, 2014, 18:58:30
I was all for padding out the wheelbarrow and getting my son to wheel me in. But mother being in the trade scrounged a wheelchair, so hissing down with a monsoon with me in a baggy pair of shorts we stormed the clinic. As soon as they saw me they went straight  to work. Injections, blood tests, every bit of equipment that bleeped, whistled, flashed lights hooked up to me. I did throw up as I was a bit shaken up by the trip.

Proper treatment now as I was inches away from septicemia. Nurse every 4 hours as the hospital has run out of beds and some high powered pain killers that work, feeling reasonably comfortable. Lotioned right up from the toes to the family jewels to stop the skin splitting open.

Drinking little tubs of special yoghurt drinks and hoping what stays down will stop my stomach tuning itself inside out as the antibiotics kill the good ones along with the bad.

Sue is trying to tempt me with all my favourite meals, getting a bit of a nuisance really with all her blathering and fussing about, so I close my eyes and pretend I'm asleep.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Silverleaf on October 29, 2014, 22:19:38
Hope you feel better soon Ace, that sounds horrible. :(
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: rosebud on October 30, 2014, 00:11:45
 Pleased to hear better news on your condition ACE, do take care hope it soon goes away with the treatment you are getting.
 All the best to you  get well soon .
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 30, 2014, 02:57:34
Pleased to hear you are now getting the right treatment.

I am not sure that even with all the antibiotics etc that getting rid of cellulitis is a quick fix. 

I can recommend turmeric tea.  I fry teaspoon of turmeric powder in a teaspoon of oil for a few moments, then add 2/3 cup of water and boil for a few minutes with ground pepper (it should be 10 minutes but I get bored waiting), then pour into a cup and add teaspoon of honey and either milk or plain yoghurt. 

If you do not like it you can use the turmeric to test for boron in your water and soil instead.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 30, 2014, 06:25:02
Well if the turmeric works for you, go for it, I'll stick to something stronger.  When this lot clears up I shall see if the clinic has a scheme where I can get  treatment at the first hint of trouble. I am not a wimp but the last few days have been horrendous.

Still not right, but the treatment is starting to work, yesterday morning after passing out a few times, I wondered wether I would still be here at the end of the day. I even showed mother where my will is hidden. She did not know I had one.  Had to re-hide  it again this morning but you can bet she will be sneaking about trying to find it's new hiding place.

All I need now is something tempting to eat, something that will stay with me for more than ten minutes, that will give me some energy that I can eat with a knife and fork. All this slop in a glass I am being force fed has it's advantages when it is coming back up, but I am bloody starving.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: gazza1960 on October 30, 2014, 06:25:32
I'd willingly get the Lymington ferry over to Yarmouth and come and  find you in hospital and play some uplifting toons on me squuzebox as I know you enjoy the accordion but I think the hospital staff would want to know where the cat wailing noise was eminating from.........  :blob7:

So I'll leave that mad idea and just wish you a full recovery from your ongoing problem fella.

Gazza
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 30, 2014, 07:13:46
Come on Gazza, give me a nice recipe to drool over, not to spicy, light, nourishing and tasty. Favorite foods, smoked fish, crayfish, prawns, English cheeses, something pie shaped.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: grannyjanny on October 30, 2014, 07:41:56
Ace did you mean to say 'anything' pie shaped :icon_cheers:? Hope you are on the mend.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: goodlife on October 30, 2014, 08:10:04
Talking about food ?!...you must be feeling better  :happy7:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 30, 2014, 10:28:54
I suggested the turmeric as well as anything else.   You certainly need the antibiotics.

They should see you as an emergency if you turn up at the small injuries, your gp or A&E.  At the first hint of trouble I jump in the car any time of day.  111 is a waste of space.  It took 15 minutes hassling on the phone, and several hours before a doctor who hardly spoke English phoned me back.  Had turned up at local small injuries and been treated by the time they rang back.

You have not got rid of it yet.   Sorry to be depressing but it can be difficult to shift.

Suggest plain yoghurt maybe a little honey in it.

Are you keeping those legs up? 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 30, 2014, 14:16:41
Very very sorry to hear all you've been through, ACE, which came a bit too close to the final curtain from the sounds of it. Quick healing to you. Please, though, do not take any short cuts as you start to feel a bit better; that's always a bad temptation. But you wouldn't be one to dance with Temptation, would you?
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 30, 2014, 15:47:41
Yep keeping the leg up, but don't make your eyes water when you put them back down again and the blood rushes back in. Looks like it ain't going to shift very quickly. I was a fool to start with, not getting it seen too for a couple of days. Lost two stone in 5 days with all the sweating and not keeping food down, but like you say the  yoghurt fills a small hole and we have loads of fruit in the orchard which gets blitzed with a few veggies into smoothies which must give a bit of nourishment before it comes back up. I might as well bung some turmeric in the next one, they are discusting anyway. The leg is still huge and red hot, but I think the lotions will stop it ulcerating. Sue takes a photo each day to compare. 

Strange how the dogs who are usually all wriggles and squirming around your legs in the morning, give you space and come up gently to sit and greet you. Although they are both sitting on forbidden ground on the sofa, knowing I cannot get to them.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Silverleaf on October 30, 2014, 17:40:29
Is it worth getting some of those horrible high calorie Complan drinks that are supposed to build you up after/during illness?

I haven't tried it, but ginger's supposed to help with nausea. And I know women who swore by plain savoury biscuits (dry crackers/water biscuits/Ritz biscuits/etc) for their morning sickness while pregnant. Might be worth a try!
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on October 30, 2014, 20:30:44
Dogs can be very sensitive ! Hope that you keep going in the right direction. Just as you were licking the new plot into shape. Greetings to Sue. Just thinking its a good job that you don't have a Nissan Micra as you would never get in it in your present predicament.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 31, 2014, 05:21:37
I cannot even get into the gas guzzler unless we flatten the back seats and I can lay on a bit of foam.  It is back with a vengeance this morning. Every bit of my left leg up to my knee has now got inflamed and feels like I have scalded it with boiling water The black dog has come back into the house, it's going to take a big stick to get it to go.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on October 31, 2014, 08:04:04
Time you got back to the hospital ASAP
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: BarriedaleNick on October 31, 2014, 08:04:39
Bloddy Hell Ace - I had seen the thread but hadn't really read it till just now.  I never realised what a bugger cellulitis is and how debilitating it can be. I can thoroughly recommend the complan style drinks - they're not food as we know it but it does get the nutrients in (if you can hold it down)..

Best of British and all that and here's to hoping that you'll be back on the new plot before long.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: galina on October 31, 2014, 09:01:37
Time you got back to the hospital ASAP

Yes, please do.  This isn't getting better fast without full time hospital care, if it hasn't responded to antibiotics by now.  Time to get pro-active.  Wish you a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: antipodes on October 31, 2014, 10:15:38
Take care and get well soon. Be nice to the nurses!! :-)
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: GrannieAnnie on October 31, 2014, 10:33:38
ACE, You've quit delaying and aren't fiddling around at home with this life-threat anymore, right?

Recently (last week) I foolishly didn't consult my physician soon enough and therefore ended up in the hospital 3 nights;
Penny wise but pound foolish behavior. And also plain risky "teenager-invincible" type thinking.

Get well in the hospital, please.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on October 31, 2014, 14:14:20
Stop worrying a big white van is coming to get me. Doctors orders.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Jayb on October 31, 2014, 19:06:59
Good, take care and get better soon  :wave:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on October 31, 2014, 20:50:32
Stop worrying a big white van is coming to get me. Doctors orders.

Hope that you get the treatment that you obviously need. I knew you were bad  when you didn't rise to the Micra comment
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 02, 2014, 10:14:12
I do hope the hospital are sorting you out ACE.

I cannot believe how long it took you to get there.

Positive thoughts heading towards IOW

Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: small on November 02, 2014, 11:19:48
Seconded, Digeroo. Hope you're well enough to keep us informed, Ace, all the best.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Paulines7 on November 02, 2014, 11:31:14
I hope your leg is improving, ACE and that you are now more comfortable.  Thinking of you and sending hugs.  Get well soon.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Borlotti on November 02, 2014, 12:37:43
Worried about you ACE, hospital the best place.  Don't forget to get your lap top out (if you have one) and let us all know you are feeling better.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Pescador on November 02, 2014, 21:19:01
Need you back, and on form. Missing your razor sharp wit and repartee!
Whishing you a very speedy recovery
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: antipodes on November 03, 2014, 16:31:34
Heavens this does sound like an absolute horror! Not to boast but I think in France they never would have let him go home in that state.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 03, 2014, 19:31:34
I had it May/June and actually had very good treatment here. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on November 03, 2014, 21:02:12
I have been in touch with Ace and he is grateful for your concerns. Still in a lot of pain "10 out of 15 leg and  still like a boiled lobster" and having to wear shorts ! Ace is on IV antibiotics still but they aren't a pleasant experience either.
Most worrying is he admits to not giving the nurses too much stick!! I expect that will change when he improves.
Digeroo I hope that you do not succumb again. How does turmeric help?
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Jayb on November 03, 2014, 23:09:51
Sorry you are in such pain still, wishing you a speedy recovery. Those nurses won't know what's hit them!
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: BarriedaleNick on November 04, 2014, 07:36:35
still like a boiled lobster" and having to wear shorts !

What a terrifying image!!!
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 04, 2014, 07:55:26
Nice to hear that Ace is still in the land of the living hopefully he will get his sense of humour back soon.  He will probably take some time to completely recover.  Cellulitis is not at all nice. 

Shorts?  Good thing I did not have to wear shorts. 

I do not know exactly what the turmeric does I think it is a natural antibiotic and has various health effects, I just googled home remedies for cellulitis.  After more than seven weeks of antibiotics I was getting rather fed up.  They make me feel very sick.  But every time I stopped them it started up again.  I have a friend who is so prone to it she has to have antibiotics permanently.   I did not think the turmeric would do any harm and I rather like the taste.  Maybe it was also the honey and yoghurt in it.  But it did seem to help.  When the antibiotics finally stopped I was worried that it would kick off again, so continued the turmeric tea for a couple of weeks.  Perhaps it was just the placebo effect.   The opinions of the doctors varied, one thought it was a good idea and another thought it was ridiculous. 

I was lucky because they can now do the intravenous antibiotics at home.  It is cheaper to send round the district nurse than use up a hospital bed.  But I was not as bad as ACE.  I saw the doctor in A&E and went home with a huge bag full of all the things I needed.

I was also given some prescription moisturiser but was not pleased with the ingredients list I thought it sounded like something you lubed the car with.   Nothing natural in it at all.  100% non organic.   So I used the turmeric tea with more oil in externally as well.    Turned the skin yellow for weeks.  Good thing I was not wearing shorts.

Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: GrannieAnnie on November 04, 2014, 10:16:30
Glad to hear you are where you can get some round the clock help, ACE, and hope you have a very quick recovery, though from Digeroo's experience, you'll probably be chomping at the bit to get out long before they say you're ready. And while you're resting, we'd all like to see a picture of you in your shorts!  :icon_cheers: Shorts sound preferable to the skimpy hospital gowns flapping open in the breeze.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: galina on November 04, 2014, 12:34:41
Glad to hear you are where you can get some round the clock help, ACE, and hope you have a very quick recovery, though from Digeroo's experience, you'll probably be chomping at the bit to get out long before they say you're ready. And while you're resting, we'd all like to see a picture of you in your shorts!  :icon_cheers: Shorts sound preferable to the skimpy hospital gowns flapping open in the breeze.

These are English shorts GrannieAnnie, not what is called shorts in the USA   :toothy10:

Thanks Pumpkinlover for keeping us informed. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Paulines7 on November 04, 2014, 15:52:08
Glad to hear you are where you can get some round the clock help, ACE, and hope you have a very quick recovery, though from Digeroo's experience, you'll probably be chomping at the bit to get out long before they say you're ready. And while you're resting, we'd all like to see a picture of you in your shorts!  :icon_cheers: Shorts sound preferable to the skimpy hospital gowns flapping open in the breeze.

These are English shorts GrannieAnnie, not what is called shorts in the USA  :toothy10:

Thanks Pumpkinlover for keeping us informed.

What is the difference between shorts in the UK and those in the USA, please?  When I googled USA shorts they looked exactly the same as those found in the UK and both came in varying lengths as shown here:  http://clothing.bodenusa.com/search?w=shorts&asug=&bf=

I am even more confused now as I have come across this website:  https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A9mSs2ot8FhU4DkAF1ZLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByaGwzcXNvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOARjb2xvA2lyMgR2dGlkAw--?qid=20100322130805AAJboHV

I agree with GrannieAnnie though that anything is preferable to the hospital gowns that open at the back, revealing the patients backsides when they get up and go for a walk in the ward.   :tongue3:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 04, 2014, 18:27:15
Shorts sound preferable to the skimpy hospital gowns flapping open in the breeze.

Yeh had some of that, ordered pj shorts and my batman dressing gown, better than trying to get around with your @rse in the breeze.

As you can see the escape committee have sneaked me out although the false beard got lost in the real one. Another 14 days of strong oral stuff should see it off and the elevating the leg above the heart . I need a big steak and kidney pudding to push the heart down a bit. Drastic changes today, The heat has gone and now the itching is going to start. My own bed tonight in fact in the next hour  'heaven'
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on November 04, 2014, 19:06:32
That's great news. Remember not to scratch when it starts itching- don't want to break the skin and start a secondary infection!
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 04, 2014, 19:28:42
Nice to hear you have escaped.  Do keep looking after yourself.  Sounds like you are enjoying food again.  Enjoy your bed do not forget the blocks under the end to raise it up.  And as YorkshireLass says no scratching, if necessary wear long socks on your hands at night.  Gloves come off.

I  did not think that shorts were different in the us.  Its pants that are the real confusion.  They call trousers pants.  For my daughter anything substandard, unfair or disappointing seems to be pants (as an adjective) as well. 

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14 days of strong oral stuff
I do hope that this works for you.   Seems very short time to me.   

Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: galina on November 04, 2014, 19:33:40
Outer garment vs foundation garment.  UK shorts are outer garments.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: galina on November 04, 2014, 19:37:31
Ace, get better fast.   :wave:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on November 04, 2014, 20:11:01
Good advice from Digeroo. You can scratch in your sleep! Glad you are home again.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: GrannieAnnie on November 04, 2014, 20:38:58
Welcome home, ACE, with or without your shorts!
I hope they didn't let you out too fast though I'm sure your own bed will feel wonderful.

So, after all the correcting of my English,  I understand that your English pants are UNDERPANTS. (Or "panties" if you were a woman?)

Somehow, maybe in the 1800s, we Americans shortened the word "pantaloons" into "pants" for men, meaning outerwear.

Now what about "Bermuda Shorts," from your colony, which is what we called outerwear shorts that came down to above the knee in the '50s or 60s. I remember they looked so strange to us who were used to short shorts at the time (as in the song "We Like Short Shorts"
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Silverleaf on November 04, 2014, 22:01:10
Knickers! :p
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: small on November 05, 2014, 09:06:22
Glad you're over the worst Ace. Got a bit worried about you back there. Now you need to keep the affected bit slathered in proper prescribed moisturiser and don't go banging it on the furniture either. Good job it's a quiet-ish time for the garden.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 05, 2014, 14:01:16
Been told very firmly. No creams or moisturisers. It has to dry naturally with pure old fashioned air. No pressure socks, nothing.  One big problem, how to keep two wriggling squirming dogs who are very pleased to see me at arms length instead of the usual rough and tumble they are used to. They just don't understand.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: sparrow on November 05, 2014, 14:35:38
Glad to hear you're on the mend - sounds a horrendous thing to have.

hope the dogs have caught on, and if not that they are wearing slippers( :) ) so their claws don't catch on you.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Borlotti on November 05, 2014, 14:47:12
ACE is back, hurray.  :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:  Anyone know what causes this as I really don't fancy it, sounds nasty.  Must be difficult to explain this to the dogs, but I expect they will soon get the message.  Hope you continue to improve. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: gazza1960 on November 05, 2014, 16:37:01
Good to see you back fella.........

...............

Come on Gazza, give me a nice recipe to drool over, not to spicy, light, nourishing and tasty. Favorite foods, smoked fish, crayfish, prawns, English cheeses, something pie shaped.



sorry mate,only just noticed this.

im afraid pies don't get much of a look in fella as Judes system cant handle pasty.....so...itll be something warming with a smoked fishy
and cheesy edge.....yep.....sorted....gimme a while and ill knock it up.....nothing of mine just a recipe a mate sent me.

Gazza


Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 05, 2014, 21:43:20
It is caused by an infection getting under the skin.  Can be through a scratch, and insect bite, athlete's foot, just a small crack basically any small hole in the skin.  After a while the infection takes hold.

Seems different doctors suggest different methods, I was certainly given prescription moisturiser.  It did a great job, - stayed firmly in the bottle.  Once you have cellulitis once you can become prone to it.  For me it is brambles, I have to totally avoid bramble scratches.  I  never garden in shorts any more always wear thick trousers.   It can be caused through cracking of dry skin, hence the moisturiser.

I had never heard of it the first time I had it so rather ignored it, thinking it would go away.  I thought I had leant on a hot water bottle, and hence the heat in the leg.  But like Ace ended up in the hospital for several days.  I do not like being dished out painkillers, I want to decide when I have them.  Had it three more times since, but reacted much faster so managed to stay at home.   Last time I simply lost my footing and scratched my leg it was a very minor graze. 

I love the thought of dogs wearing anti scratch slippers, presume they will be pink.

Something with turmeric in it please Gazza.   

Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Borlotti on November 05, 2014, 23:55:24
I asked because I think my son got this, he was fitting out a friends kitchen and leaned on a nail.  His leg got very painful in the middle of the night and swelled up and went red, so we had to go to emergency hospital, and they admitted him.  Luckily he is OK now.  Luckily we caught it early and if I remember he had antibotics via a drip. Just thinking should we all have a anti tetanus jab if we work on allotments, or does it last for ever. Think I had one years and years ago.  Anyway pleased to hear ACE is getting better, and is certainly missed on this forum for his sense of humour.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 06, 2014, 07:57:34
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Cellulitis/Pages/Introduction.aspx
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 06, 2014, 08:33:28
Yes this is avoidable up to a point, but apart from being totally wrapped up and isolated from everything I don't know how. I have been racking my brains to remember what scratched me, but as I ramble with the dogs through the woods, dig and mess about with all sorts of gardening, knocks and scratches are part and parcel to my lifestyle. I think if I had just gone the first day and started treatment It would not have developed into such a deep infection. But I thought it was flu when I woke up shaking and shivering and just wrapped up and stayed in bed thinking it will go away. Next day the leg when into overdrive, but by then I was delirious and when Sue came home from work and found me in a bit of a state she whipped me up the A & E where they told me what it was and gave me a prescription. I still did not take it seriously as I was going along the cellulite avenue of thought not ever heard of cellulitus. Two days later and things were getting worse so over to the doc for stronger medicine.

It was not until I had collapsed in a heap and Sue called the doctor in I was taken up the hospital for some full on IV treatment.

I don't want everybody to worry about getting a scratch and I might be a bit paranoid  at the moment but from now on there  will be a tube of antisceptic handy as a first defence. I suggest some of you might take heed being out and about  working with manure, soil, and all the other hazards associated with gardening.  I would not like to have to give up gardening, a good hours digging with a spade is the same as an hour with a punchbag to get rid of frustrations. (Good at getting rid of hangovers as well)
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: goodlife on November 06, 2014, 08:42:45
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Just thinking should we all have a anti tetanus jab if we work on allotments

Doctors don't tend to give tetanus jab anymore as 'routine' unless you have had injury or animal bite and you've be in risk of getting tetanus.
If my memory serve me right...it used to be given every 10 yrs ?
But if you do put yourself in risky situation regularly...they will still give you jab if you ask for. I did mentioned it to doctor and because of the amount of gardening I do.. and I was given one..but only because I wanted it!
Hmm...it is now about 10 yrs since the last one....maybe I should raise the question again during next appointment...having a new GP as well....
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 06, 2014, 09:57:47
It was great when you finally got the full treatment, but I could not believe they did not do more before, and certainly would have expected the first visit to A&E to explain about it and warn you.  When you said that it had got past the line drawn on your leg, I was again surprised they did not start IV at that point.  There is a major lack of hospital beds around here so they try and keep you out of them.  Was rather amazed to find the IOW has such a large hospital for the population, though presume in the summer the population is much higher.

I do not understand why most scratches clear up fine and then one gets infected which then gets out of control.  I had been gardening and hence getting various scratches and bites etc for 40 years before getting problems.  Presume old age is not helping. The fear of cellulitis certainly does not stop me gardening.  Since the last attack took me most of three months to recover fully, I do admit to a certain amount of paranoia creeping in.  By that time my allotments and garden were quite a jungle and have taken some time to get sorted. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: GrannieAnnie on November 06, 2014, 11:42:27
...But I thought it was flu when I woke up shaking and shivering and just wrapped up and stayed in bed thinking it will go away. Next day the leg when into overdrive, but by then I was delirious and when Sue came home from work and found me in a bit of a state she whipped me up the A & E where they told me what it was and gave me a prescription.
What I learned from my recent hospital stay: if you believe you aren't being given enough medical care (or have the slightest doubt that you can manage the illness at home), then tell the doctor you need the hospital. Granted, they may not have a bed sometimes, but you never know til you ask, and a bed may come available.

In my case, after a bout with a virus that attacked my heart and a wild arrythmia, they'd drained fluid (a quart) from around my heart (pericardial centesis), pulled the drain the next day, changed my meds, decided not to treat my pneumonia and said I was to be discharged. They said my family doctor could treat the pneumonia if he wanted when I got home, even though I was hacking away constantly.  I said I was exhausted and in no shape to go home and thought I needed cardiac monitoring at least one more night since they'd made all those changes. The doctors rethought their decision and they let me stay another night.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 09, 2014, 07:38:46
Update. Seems as if things are improving, but still a long way to go. Leg muscles are knotted up and it is very uncomfortable to walk or even sit without having the leg raised. Spend most of my time reading in bed as it is the only place I can get comfortable. Another ten days of antibiotics yet. I had to go to a funeral which was very painful sat on a pew, so we just done the chapel bit and left the committal to the rest of the family and I shot back home to bed.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Jayb on November 09, 2014, 08:06:39
Unfortunately I think it is a slow condition to heal, good news you are making steady progress. Hope you will be able to be up and doing things very soon. Don't forget lots of natural yoghurt and bio drinks once you have finished the meds to restore your good gut bacteria, antibiotics make it a habit to get rid of them.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on November 09, 2014, 08:13:22
...But I thought it was flu when I woke up shaking and shivering and just wrapped up and stayed in bed thinking it will go away. Next day the leg when into overdrive, but by then I was delirious and when Sue came home from work and found me in a bit of a state she whipped me up the A & E where they told me what it was and gave me a prescription.
What I learned from my recent hospital stay: if you believe you aren't being given enough medical care (or have the slightest doubt that you can manage the illness at home), then tell the doctor you need the hospital. Granted, they may not have a bed sometimes, but you never know til you ask, and a bed may come available.

In my case, after a bout with a virus that attacked my heart and a wild arrythmia, they'd drained fluid (a quart) from around my heart (pericardial centesis), pulled the drain the next day, changed my meds, decided not to treat my pneumonia and said I was to be discharged. They said my family doctor could treat the pneumonia if he wanted when I got home, even though I was hacking away constantly.  I said I was exhausted and in no shape to go home and thought I needed cardiac monitoring at least one more night since they'd made all those changes. The doctors rethought their decision and they let me stay another night.


I hope that you are fully recovered soon GA.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 10, 2014, 19:09:59
I suggest you go back to your doc for review before you run out of antibiotics.  My experience is that you may need them for longer to be sure you really shifted it.  It can be very fickle. 
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Borlotti on November 10, 2014, 19:25:56
I thought of a good idea for ACE, if he is not allowed out.  With his sense of humour and his gardening skills, why not write a book, a funny book about all the things that go wrong when gardening.  Gardening books and the internet are good for reference, but a gardening book with a sense of humour would be good, and don't believe anyone else has done it.  Come on ACE I know you can do it, get well soon.  I am sure we could all help you with the mistakes with have made, ie watering a weed, instead of the seeds we had planted etc. etc.  And I still hate you as you ACE have got many more likes than me (joking).  :BangHead: :BangHead:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 12, 2014, 07:47:28
I am in the planning stage of an escape route, so I can sneak out and have a look around the allotment. Not to work, just for some fresh air and see some different faces. The swelling has gone down a lot but I had some pressure sores to deal with and the complete leg has shed its skin which is so itchy it is driving me mad. I still have another week of anti wotsits but I don't need the pain killers so much.

Let's hope this is eventually going away. one strange side effect is I cannot face any strong flavoured food. Scrambled egg on toast and cereal has been my diet plus the actimel to replace the bacteria that the anti biotics kill. I always have  finely chopped spinach in  my scrambled eggs so I'm getting a bit of green stuff. Even the thought of a small tincture or two makes me feel sick. (See I told you I was ill).
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 12, 2014, 08:44:33
I am not convinced that the actimel etc will do anything much until you finish the antibiotics as they will simply kill the good bacteria as well.

Please do not think of giving up the antibiotics too soon, discuss with your doctor.  Do make sure it has totally gone 110% before they stop.  I find that it has a very nasty habit of coming straight back.  The thought of ending the antibiotics is nice, but an extra week or two can be better than an extra month or two.     

Nice to hear you are managing to get out and about.  I had my cellulitis at strawberry time, so went twice a day to raid the strawberries and watch the weeds taking over.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Deb P on November 13, 2014, 18:30:23
That will be the IV antibiotics that have stripped your taste buds. Same happened to me when I had IV antibiotics for four weeks, everything tasted odd and it took me ages to figure out why! You will go back to normal though. Glad you are improving! :tongue3:
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on November 13, 2014, 20:58:57
Glad that you are on the mend!
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on November 14, 2014, 08:55:25
On the mend is right P.L. It might just be my frame of mind but I woke up this morning with what looks a great improvement. I was asked to play the concertina at a do tonight, just for an hour so I decided that it would be an easy thing to do. It lifted the cloud a bit, after nearly three weeks of moaning and being confined to the house, I am looking forwards to it.

I have small problem with my hand where the cannula went in, it feels like a lump under my skin, only noticed it when I slipped the concertina straps over my hand for a bit of practice. I hope there is nothing left in there, but will pop over the clinic later just to get it checked out. More than likely just a bit of internal bruising.

I keep planning a small trip  the allotment but every time I think I will go it starts hissing down and the paths  might just be a bit slippery to risk it.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on November 14, 2014, 09:06:52
Really good to hear you are on the mend, but also pleased to hear that you have developed a taste for popping to the clinic to check things out.   
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Yorkshire Lass on November 14, 2014, 10:32:11
Don't worry about the lump on your hand where the cannula was, it will go down and return to normal with a bit of time.

Glad you are feeling better and in better spirits.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on December 11, 2014, 09:00:21
Would you believe I am still having problems. The calve muscle has never loosened up and now my thigh muscle is hurting. Swollen foot all the time, I have to wear shoes that are two sizes bigger than normal. Docs tomorrow to find out if this is normal. Mobile enough but not as far as I used to walk.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on December 11, 2014, 09:38:58
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Docs tomorrow.
Not good  :BangHead: :BangHead:
suggest Doc today!!!!

I am not surprised it is a brute to get rid of it. 

Did they check you out for DVT?

For me this is not right.  Took some time to get over but did not leave swelling.
But yours got much worse in the first place.  Still got scarring from each incident - skin still wrong colour after several years,  hoped a bit of sun on it would help but has not faded. 

Certainly had to do some mild exercises to build things up again.

I still recommend that you get round to your doc faster in future if you have even a whiff of a problem.   IF you ask for an appointment then you have to wait, but if you say you NEED to see a doctor they should fit you in or a least ring you back and assess the situation.  Be persistent. 

If you have cellulitis once you will probably have it again. 



Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on December 11, 2014, 10:23:25
Na, tomorrow will do. It's that time of year again where he shoves his finger up my jacksie. (I know, to much information) So if I have to wait until tomorrow I ain't worried. Yep DVT, DDT, PMT and anything else with initials, I've been  checked for them all. Tomorrows appointment is to devise another test although last time he said it could be lymphosomething which they can't do a lot for. I think I might ask for my disabled car badge back, I gave it back years ago as I felt a fraud, but there are times when I think it would be handy now and again when it strikes with a vengeance.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: artichoke on December 12, 2014, 20:11:42
Many sympathies. Have enjoyed your posts for years, and absolutely demand more of them. Do not give in......PMT???
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: ACE on December 13, 2014, 12:31:40
More tests on Monday, but the doc reckons it is lymphoedema and more than likely untreatable, so looks like a bit of a rethink for me on how to carry on my usual lifestyle. Not going to give anything up but certain activities will have to be moderated. It's a good job I only play the music for the Morris dancing my dancing days were over years ago. Although I did demonstrate a few moves last night when teaching the side a new dance. Long walks are out so I will drive to more interesting places for shorter walks. Planted some fruit bushes this morning down the lotty, just an hour but manageable. The Yeti in Pink Knickers is pleased my trips to the pub have been slightly curtailed. So apart from the discomfort I can manage it.
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: pumkinlover on December 13, 2014, 16:18:07
Have you got the nurses eyeing you up for stockings yet?
Title: Re: cellulitis
Post by: Digeroo on December 13, 2014, 17:44:48
And a bit of cross gartering would look nice too.
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