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Title: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 17:37:51
i have posted 2 piccies hope they are clear enough the plants have a very distinctive smell that i cant quite place any ideas?
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 18:01:53
Looks a bit like Par-cel to me.  Smells/tastes like Celery?

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 18:09:41
i cant quite place the smell dont think it smells not celery, its really bugging me, leaves look like parsley but doesnt smell like it  ???
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: flowerofshona2007 on September 25, 2008, 18:44:43
Looks like a scented pelegonium  ???
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Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 20:15:30
Any chance of an in-focus photo, Debs?  ;)  ;D  ::)

G x
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Post by: Sally A on September 25, 2008, 20:19:17
Looks a bit parsnippy to me.  did you get them from the veg area?
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Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 20:34:43
what are you saying about my photograpy lol  :o
i shall have to get a fresh piece tomorrow the other bit is all wilted,
im certain it isnt parsnip though it does look like it
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 20:38:14
what are you saying about my photograpy lol  :o
i shall have to get a fresh piece tomorrow the other bit is all wilted,
im certain it isnt parsnip though it does look like it

Eek sorry gal, tis prolly me eyes! ;)  I still say Par-cel if the leaves look like parsley. But if they are slightly hairy then I'm with Shona, scented Pelargonium.

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 20:41:46
no Georgie tis not your eyes tis my photography lol i have never bothered to read the destruction booklet lol

the plant is not hairy it looks exactly like broad leaf parsley ive just rubbed it between my fingers and it smells a bit like olbas oil or eucalyptus  ???
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 20:45:47
no Georgie tis not your eyes tis my photography lol i have never bothered to read the destruction booklet lol

the plant is not hairy it looks exactly like broad leaf parsley ive just rubbed it between my fingers and it smells a bit like olbas oil or eucalyptus  ???

Oh why didn't you say before?  It's gotta be the herb Olbasium Oilatum.   ;D

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: ACE on September 25, 2008, 20:50:23
scented geranium/ pelargolium.  I have a few, attar of roses is the best, but I also have the menthol and an apple scented one.
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 20:55:06
scented geranium/ pelargolium.  I have a few, attar of roses is the best, but I also have the menthol and an apple scented one.

Not if the leaves are 'like broad leaf parsley', Ace.  Pelargoniums are much thicker and 'furry' aren't they?

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 21:09:33
georgie i could send you some leaves to see what you think
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Post by: grawrc on September 25, 2008, 21:23:30
scented geranium/ pelargolium.  I have a few, attar of roses is the best, but I also have the menthol and an apple scented one.

Not if the leaves are 'like broad leaf parsley', Ace.  Pelargoniums are much thicker and 'furry' aren't they?

G x
not all the scented ones. Some of them are quite like parsley as is coriander leaf.
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 25, 2008, 21:28:08
looks like coriander hubby says but deffo doesnt smell like it i reckon its a flower of some description
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Emagggie on September 25, 2008, 22:03:40
Not something wild from the Chrysanthemum family? I know what I mean but I can't think of it's name. ::)
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 25, 2008, 22:11:42
georgie i could send you some leaves to see what you think

Well you could but I'm not claiming any expertise here.  You might do better sending 'em to grawrc?

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: grawrc on September 25, 2008, 22:53:23
Ah well g I'm an expert in nothing horticultural so although I would endeavour to find the solution I could not guarantee it.
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Amazin on September 26, 2008, 01:41:07
Not of the Feverfew family, is it?
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on September 26, 2008, 10:48:46
ok if you pm me your addresses i will send you some of the leaves all of you if necessary to find out what it is thanks
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on September 26, 2008, 17:31:23
Okay, in for a penny, in for a pound.  I'm happy to PM you my address.   ;D

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Georgie on October 01, 2008, 16:38:29
Right I received the plant today.  IMHO it's not Parsley, Par-cel, Celery leaf, Pelargonium or Coriander.  The daughter thought it smelt a bit like pine, whereas to me the closest I could get to a recognisable aroma was Chrysanthemum, so Emaggie might be onto something?  The taste is bitter and unpleasant so I doubt it's edible.  I'm really sorry but I can't identify it.

To make up for my complete uselessness I can tell others that the leaves are opposite and tripinnate.  And I've taken the following pics to see if anyone else can help. 

G x

Single leaf

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Plant%20ID/Singleleaf.jpg)

Whole plant

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Plant%20ID/Wholeplant.jpg)

Reverse of plant

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Plant%20ID/Reverseofplant.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: thifasmom on October 01, 2008, 16:43:30
feverfew (Tanacetum parthenium)??
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Post by: Georgie on October 01, 2008, 17:01:10
feverfew (Tanacetum parthenium)??

Oh I think that's ten points each to Amazin and Thifasmom.  I just Googled and it looks right to me.   ;D

G x
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Palustris on October 01, 2008, 18:01:01
You should have asked me! Spend my life pulling the awful stuff up. How come we never let it flower and set seed yet it grows all over the place?
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Post by: thifasmom on October 01, 2008, 18:02:03
 ;) i grow it as a perennial shrub that i cut back every autumn to enjoy its daisy like flowers. its a herb and can be eaten, but some people can react to it, it can be used as a tea to relieve fevers hence it name. here is a pic of it in my garden i have three clumps of it you might be able to spot all of them.

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk187/thifasmom/IMG_0183.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 01, 2008, 18:03:44
Either it's old seed (I don't know how long it lasts in the ground) or the seed is coming in from elsewhere. I planted it in my first year on the plot, and now it's all over the place, and I'm noticing plants coming up round the site.

It's quite a pleasant flower, in moderation.
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Amazin on October 02, 2008, 00:14:37
I can supply the whole of Britain with the stuff. Prolific's not the word!
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: debster on October 04, 2008, 18:51:49
well i have no idea where it came from here but it is definatly getting more prolific
dont they use it for migraine?
and thanks for solving the mystery ;D
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 04, 2008, 22:17:27
It is traditionally used for migraine; if I remember right you have to keep taking it daily over a long period.
Title: Re: anyone know what this is?
Post by: manicscousers on October 05, 2008, 08:32:56
my father in law used to make tea with it for migraines
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