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Allotment Stuff => The Basics => Topic started by: Squash63 on February 22, 2009, 12:46:44
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I've just come back from the allotments and I'm feeling a bit upset. One of the men was having a bit of a rant about how untidy our site was. He said it was the worst he'd ever seen it in all the years he had been there.
When I asked him what in particular he objected to he said it was all the bottles on top of canes, and plastic barrels (for compost or water) on the plots. His own plot doesn't have bottles or barrels - but it doesn't have many plants either. In fact, it's mainly grass which he strims.
I am the site secretary and have always felt quite proud of our site, I thought sites were meant to look like ours did! We get lots of visitors and they always comment on how good it looks. Maybe I'm living in a dreamworld and other sites are models of tidyness and order.
Please, someone tell me that there are other sites like ours.
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tell him to sort it out for you then!!!!just ignore people like that, just because they have been there for years (too many years some of them) they think they can tell us youngsters what to do.
happy gardening
kev.
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Just tell him if he stuffs straw up his sleeves and down his trousers and runs up and down your paths all day scaring the birds off you'll take the bottles down.
If he refuses then... Just tell him to stuff himself anyway!
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Don't be, just ignore him. He's probably jealous that your plot is better than his.
Most sites are not tidy which is all part of the charm of allotments!
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Well you have got two choices,
Throw the health and safety book at him for not covering canes to protect other allotmenteers eyes or get him throw off for not using the plot to grow veg / flowers on , as this must contravine one of your rules .
I take it either your committee or council do risk assessment of plots for insurance perposes and any liabilities have to be fixed by the plot holder , plastic bottles may not look nice but they are there for a perpose.
The best way of getting back at him is to make him put plastic bottles on his canes by changing the rules on the allotment as a majority vote is all you need and they all ready do it anyway.
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I have plastic bottles on the tops of my canes - they are cheaper than canetoppers and are an essential safety item. Well for me anyway I get really engrossed in what I am doing and sometimes am not as concious of where the canes are.
I think the spirit of allotments is one of mend, make do and innovate and therefore they are not going to be show gardens. I therefore wouldn't be so upset about the comment - after all as you say he mainly has grass and that doesn't take a lot of knowledge or skill to strim does it. :)
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::) Good job he's not next to my plots as I use a redundant child's swing frame ( the sort that as 3 different things on) for my bean canes. As its so sturdy and heavy it stays in place. We move it each year and I keep promising myself that I'll paint it green so it blends in. And am collecting bright yellow containers from work that would other wise end up in the skip to grow things in. (5 gallons)
He sounds as though he has to much time and money. Just ignore him. Half the fun of having a lottie is make do / mend / recycle /swop. The other half is mixing with like minded people.
Sending you a big hug :) :)
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I shouldn't think theres a site in the country without plastic bottles or barrels on site, as just said all the recycling and different ideas are part of the charm on the lottie, ignore the pratt. ;D ;D ;D
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I think it was silly of him to complain about that.
I do understand where he is coming from though,Personally I dislike them,they do look messy and I do not believe they frighten birds.
I stick a bit of Plasticine in the bottam of a small flower pot ,upside downand put them on the end of canes,plenty of free empty pots at the garden centre.
My second plot had several of these plastic bottle in the undergrowth.Grrrr.
I am one of those that like a pretty plot if you like and I am careful what I use as I like it to look good and taste good.LOL
Saying that it is a stupid thing to complain about,he should have kept his thoughts to himself.
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Try to ignore it. We've got a few people like that on our site - rolling lawns and flower beds with hardly any vegetables growing and not a plastic bottle in sight. But the majority use plastic bottles on the end of canes, not only to protect eyes but also to distract the pigeons and nobody bothers about it. I suppose the little yoghurt drink bottles look better, but some of us don't drink the stuff.
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We have different coloured plastic balls on canes on one plot. I think they look quite pretty and don't bother me. I was always told about the danger of canes, can poke out your eyes. Allotments are not meant to be pretty but functional. Tell him to stay in his own back garden and mow his lawn. What a shame as the people on my allotment site are lovely and friendly and my plot is certainly not perfect or tidy, but vegetables grow.
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not much more to add after reading all your replies,but sending you a big hug from one sec to another,we have also had a day of one person trying to ruin all our hard work,im growing quite a thick skin to deal with such people!! its the only way,but i hope you feel ok and have got lots of complements from other plotholders on what im sure a great job you are doing
rach
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Ridiculous! Personally I prefer multi-coloured ball-pool balls to plastic bottles ;), but whatever you use it keeps the canes safe and makes the plot look used.
Ignore him and carry on as before!
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I use small bottes on the top of my canes. I do like them to be all the same size if possible but if not so what. I wouldn't want to poke my eye out or have anyone else do the same. I don't think for one miute they would scare the birds away. I also use 1litre clear bottles on my sweetcorn to protect against squirrels.We all have our own ways of doing things. Wouldn't it be nice if folks could just live and let live without critisizing others.
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As most of the other posts have said, I would rather have compost bins and water barrels to conserve water than not. to me they are allotment essentials.
I think the look of allotments and how people re use all sorts of items into supports for beans etc. is entirely part of their charm! How boring it would look otherwise!
Don't be upset by his remarks, treat them for what they are, just his opinion! Yours is equally as valid! ;D
Here is a small selection of the plots on our site last year...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l47/dlp133/Misc/plots2oct07159.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l47/dlp133/Misc/plot122.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l47/dlp133/Misc/plot99.jpg)
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Hi Squash, this guy is clearly a pain but a few adverse comments are better than losing an eye. Alotments are all about inovation and the feelgood factor of making something work.
You stand your ground. I'm afraid I would tell him to p*** in the wind, or better still on your compost heap ;D ;D ;D
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On our contacts for the plots it says that the allottment is to be kept for mostly for the growing of vegetables. I'd imagine yours must also say something similar. Maybe the fellow should be asked as to why his plot is mostly stimmed and not for what we all have a plot for. In this day and age of shortages of available sites should he be asked to give his plot up to a more worthy, or budding. allottmenteer
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Keep up with the cane tops , bottles , balls anything you can stick on them to
protect you'r eyes, they are [ one of ] the most preciouse of your bodily parts
-- let no one change your views on the said subject !! >:(
floss xxx
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Hi Squash,
I can only agree with everyone else. Don't let one "jerk" spoil it for you. >:(
Life is too short. Better with 2 eyes too. :o
Leave him to his grass.
MP - Hugs all round.
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Don't get into a stew about him, do what I do, smile sweetly and say nothing. Think your thoughts and do what suits you.
I find it has the desired effect.
When I mulched with straw in the begining I had many, many very rude and unhelpful comments, as I did when I won a prize for my little plot last year. ::) ;D, which says it all really. Just sounds a silly arse to me.
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Yup. He's a plonker.
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Ignore the silly man. People like that aren't worth spending time on.
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Send him a warning letter for not cultivating it... "Grass" indeed!! ::)
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I'm afraid I would tell him to p*** in the wind, or better still on your compost heap ;D ;D ;D
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Send him a warning letter for not cultivating it... "Grass" indeed!! ::)
Perhaps he's a silly Moo!
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Many, many thanks for all the replies to my post yesterday. I had a good giggle at some of them and I feel so much better now. It's good to know that there are other sites like ours where recycling and safety are taken seriously.
The man who complained is really quite negative about lots of things. When I first started there I won the 'Best Newcomer' prize and he came to look at my plot. He told me that I might have won something that year, but it was only beginner's luck and I shouldn't expect to ever win anything again. (The following year I won the 'Best Plot' competition) Never mind, he must be a sad lonely bloke with this sort of attitude.
Thanks again everyone,
Betty
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I am with Saddad.Grass ain't cultivation, never mind how short he keeps it .
Tell him your considering proposing a limit on the use of strimmers at the next commitee meeting because of the noise they make.
Or better still put your committee head on say hmm, hmm and say "Put your grumbles in a letter stating the plots that are ofending you. Sign it with your name and I will present it to the commitee at the next meeting" .. We have found this the best way to shut such idiots up.
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DON'T LET THE OLD MOANER GET TO YOU OBVIOUSLY RETIRED AND HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN MOAN. MY PLOT IS NEAT BUT OTHERS UP OUR SITE ARE A SHAMBLES BUT NOBODY WORRYS. TELL HIM TO SPUD OFF. ;)
ENJOY YOUR PLOT...
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Our contact says veg, flowers or lawn, maybe this site is the same, but now you have give us a bit more info we can see that he's a sad, lonely, jealous, grumpy, moaning old git. I'd wait until the summer stake him to his grass naked and leave him to fry in the sun, 8) OK so its a bit over the top, how about a compromise and you put a plastic bottle on his winkie to keep the Sun 8) off it. :o ;D ;D ;D
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Just a thought ---- does he know why there are all these strange things on canes ?
floss xxx
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OK so its a bit over the top, how about a compromise and you put a plastic bottle on his winkie to keep the Sun 8) off it. :o ;D ;D ;D
But wouldn't that cook it like a little pork chipolata?
(http://uk.geocities.com/joe.slavko@btinternet.com/chipolata.jpg)
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there is one on every allotment, 4 on mine lol. Complain about everything. then when you do as they please, complain about something else. Ignorning them is the best option
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Tell him instead of spending his time whinging; to cultivate his grassland for what allotments are supposed to be for. No objections to everyone having a small grassed area but for a plot to be mainly grass... They are not meant to be a lawn.
Most people on my site use bottles, CDs etc. All our pigeon men have a grassed area but they cultivate quite a bit of their plots too.
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He sounds bonkers! My Gran's neighbour is like that. He likes his garden so neat that it's terrifying. He rails against trees, because they drop leaves. Paints everything in sight sparkling white. Chopped down her lovely quince bush because he reckoned it was straying onto his side. Even jumped over the fence and painted her nice natural-wood lawn chair with pink wood preservative, and thought he was doing her a favour! Barmy!
The guy sounds like he has mental health issues, to be honest. What a weird, nasty, negative attitude to be carrying around with him all the time - and what a pain to have to deal with it. An allotment is for practical gardening, it's not intended to look like the blimmin' Chelsea Flower Show... :S
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he'd have a fit if he saw mine...
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every site has got one and they are best ignored, however upsetting. One guy always makes comments about my plot but the fact is I am in the process of rehabilitating my plot and sometimes, yes, it isn't as perfect as I'd like. Take a look at my pics - fairly tidy but still I am conscious people will be chattering. Ignore them, get on with your plans and prove them wrong! That's my approach!
x
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And the other thing to tell him is, that when he pays your plot rental he can tell you what to do on your plot, but until then he can go tickle up his kilt. ;D ;D
valmarg
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I don't get why someone would want to grow grass on their allotment, other than for small areas, like pathways, and somewhere to sit. If he likes grass - can't he just go and sit in the park??
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some people just have to have something to complain about and it sounds like he's one of them. Your site sounds perfectly normal to me and it's a pity he isn't more concerned about his own lack of recycling and misuse of his plot. I'm sure there are many people who would put it to much better use and be a better neighbour.
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i think your problem is quite simple to solve just tell him to @@@@@@@ that's the policy i always use and it seem to work i don't explain what i am doing and the reasons why i just tell them to @@@@@@' and they never bother me again , and you gain respect no bull poo on my plot just the stuff i put in the ground
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I've just come back from the allotments and I'm feeling a bit upset. One of the men was having a bit of a rant about how untidy our site was. He said it was the worst he'd ever seen it in all the years he had been there.
When I asked him what in particular he objected to he said it was all the bottles on top of canes, and plastic barrels (for compost or water) on the plots. His own plot doesn't have bottles or barrels - but it doesn't have many plants either. In fact, it's mainly grass which he strims.
I am the site secretary and have always felt quite proud of our site, I thought sites were meant to look like ours did! We get lots of visitors and they always comment on how good it looks. Maybe I'm living in a dreamworld and other sites are models of tidyness and order.
Please, someone tell me that there are other sites like ours.
on our site we have a few folk like that too, always moaning >:( our plots have got to be 3/4 cultivated if not you get 3 warnings and then its bye bye, i noticed the other day just how many plots were coverd in grass only! 7 perfectly good plots all let to old men with there pigeons and they dont get told jack!!!! :-X. All they say is that there birds dont come on to other members plots!!! get f****d i said i shot 7 alone last week eating my young caulis, and my savoy cabbage, eating my broads etc. i went and proved them all wrong too ;D. i was protecting my crops !!. got a good meal out of it though.
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Thank you so much for all the replies since my last 'thank you'. There has been a new development today, but I'll talk about it in a separate post.