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Allotment Stuff => The Basics => Topic started by: powerspade on May 01, 2008, 22:14:58
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I know we should`nt make money out of selling our surplus produce from the allotment but I would like to sell and use the profits to put back into my plots, which I think I would be allowed to do. for example a couple of tons of manure for starters, also a green house and cold frame. I usually have runner beans by the bath full, also salad crops, and rhubarb. How do I go about working out a fair price to charge people
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Personally I go for trade in kind but when we sell some produce at things like the Derby Eco fest I just make it up... the shop prices are usually so silly that you have no trouble getting rid...
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I am sure that people will snap them up at car boot sales.
Obviously if it was a proper business you would have to work out your costings but if it is just to sell off extras,you could sell them for anything really
Make sure you cover your petrol and rent cost so I would not sell them silly cheap.
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eh up I have started doing a couple of gardens on top of full time and two and half plots any money I earn is split between holidays etc and new mower rotorvater and such like ho hum ::)
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I do sell my excess raspberries, currently I am selling rhuabard, and in the winter I sold Jerusalem Artichokes. I also intend to sell excess strawberries, and spare plants etc and eggs (when I get my chickens) You will all be so sick of me saying that soon!!
I do not do this as a business but as I have put in polytunnel, chicken house etc I want to cover my costs.
The plants I put on a table outside my house with an honesty box (and no I have not lost any money - YET!) and the other stuff I sell to Health Food Shop, local greengrocer and a pub!
Old Bird
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When I was on holiday in Dorset we purchased veg that had been left on peoples doorsteps with an honesty box.It is a lovely way to buy your veg :)
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our allotment society doesn't allow selling of produce. fair enough, otherwise it's a business, and competition with other local producers who pay business rates, tax etc.
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Well said Tony.
As well, If my memory serves, if you sell from the gate you lose your capital gains allowances, since you are technically operating as a business.
Because its just a quid here or there, people think its ok.
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Tonybloke
It is frowned on certainly but we are not talking quantity here Tony we are talking small scale a few packs of raspberries a few sticks of rhuabarb. Probably a couple of quid to a fiver a week! I am not going to be supplying Tesco in the near future!!
Old Bird!
Not surprised to see you here Albacore - don't suppose you have ever bought anything that fell off the back of a lorry then!!
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Just wondering about honesty boxes...........do you name a price or do people just pay what they think its worth? I love seeing people selling their excess just last night we brought a dozen bantam eggs for £1.40 and secured and endless supply of rotted horse poop ;D ;D its like gold dust round here.
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Not surprised to see you here Albacore - don't suppose you have ever bought anything that fell off the back of a lorry then!!
I most certainly have not, theft, or fencing is the pits.
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Oh, and I've just been and posted on felt roofing.
Is that ok, or do you think I'm not well placed to advise there?
And the insinuation that I am in some way iffy, or whatever is getting a bit tiresome
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Thanks - but not interested in felt roofing! I certainly don't object to anyone giving advice if it is given in the right spirit and you are well placed in this category as I believe you are a builder!
I am sorry if I did insinuate that you may be a involved in anything iffy - but you brag about what you have and how much you spend on your dental work and how hard you work etc etc. and how rubbish this is that is and the other is and how you work sooooo hard and no one else works as hard as you and it really is annoying me BIG TIME. Maybe we have a communication problem - but your tone is domineering, bullying, ignorant and nasty.
I cannot think that the Revenue would be interested in the sale of a few dozen plants (which I grow in my own garden) and the odd spare veggies. But I will fully account to the Revenue if and when I move - just in case I have broken the rules. I will, if they say I owe capital gains tax, be able to offset the cost of the capital expenses that I have incurred so in effect no tax would be payable on the measly amount that I may or may not make. But thank you so much for advising me of this potential tax problem.
Old Bird
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With regard to honesty boxes I mark the price on a blackboard-and hope it doesn`t rain :)
There is no competition in this village and the only person likely to be had up for employing cheap labour is myself as a sole trader ???
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Old bird, Albacore's incorrect. There's no capital gains tax or allowances for that matter on the sale of your produce. A capital gain arises when a capital asset is sold for more than the purchase price. Your rasps aren't capital assets.
It's unlikely HMRC would consider the occasional sale of your excess crops as running a business but if they did, you would be able to set your expenses off against the revenue you earned.
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I have my own land and sell organic veg boxes and bags of oranges to get a bit of incoming dosh to pay for extra water, and manure etc...... gardening can be expensive! I don't feel bad in the slightest, people are crying out for my organic goodies at work. I pay enough tax as it is!
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Apologies for my tax error.
Got it the wrong way round I think.
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Id be quite happy if something usefull 'fell off the back of a lorry' you know a bag of tenners or a greenhouse but ah thats the stuff dreams are made of lol
Im gonna sell my excess to the parents of the school pupils and me and the school funds are gonna go halves with it. Im gonna bag things up and charge 1 pound and it depends what it is to how much they get. ;D
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Ishard
I dream about these things too!! What about that ship that went aground in Cornwall or Devon I would have been down there like a shot!! Also the one in Worthing that washed up all that timber - what a completely fabulous time I would have had!! Did you see the wood? It was just fabulous really really thick and great long planks - many a deep bed that would have made!
Old Bird
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Funny that you mentioned that ship! My daughter lives in Devon and I nagged at her to get over there and she wouldnt :( I thought I had taught her better than that!!!! She certainly doesnt take after her mother!
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Really delighted to hear that I'm not the only one selling my surplus produce from the allotment. I used to be so terrified in case someone discovered what I've been doing. My OH sadly is disgusted by what I did, and refused to give me a hand at the allotment any longer, so now I have to juggle with looking after the family as well as keeping the allotment as near to a decent state as I possibly can.
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Your OH needs a swift kick! LOL Hes using that as an excuse to get out of some work. My hubby would do that too. ;D
Think back to any time he has done something you disproved of and use that to get him working again. ;)
or say "Here sweetie you look after the kids Im working on my allotment, see you in 3 hours. Oh and please feed the kids while Im gone."
Watch how quick he starts to help! ;D
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I got a letter from the council last year saying that if I sold my surplus on a stall at the local garden centre's autumn fair on both Saturday and Sunday I'd get the next year's rent paid by them. sadly I didn't have any surplus last year (first year) but I might have a bit this year ;D
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I lost my wife last week, she used to like going to the plot.
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I lost my wife last week, she used to like going to the plot.
I am beginning to think you have lost the plot. What a thing to post. I think you should seriously consider seeing some one.
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Forgot to post the other line.
What a game of cards that was.
Boom Boom!
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Albacore there are people on this site who have lost partners and you are really annoying me.
You appear to have no sensitivity to other peoples feelings.
I for one do not accept your apology as I do not for one moment think it is sincere.
I have also noticed that you have added more words at the bottom of your posting,Get a life or better still get some help.You could have friends on this site if you wanted them.
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It's a line from the Italian Job.
Mr Bridger says it to the Governor, after having his ''toilet, rudely interrupted''.
It is in no way a political reference.I see from another post that you appear to be a red hot leftie
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I don't know whats going on but in every thread I click on someone seems to be having a go at albacore1854, whatever it is you're doing albacore1854 please stop and use the forum in the correct manner.
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With regards to the rights or wrongs about selling my produce I see no problem with it as long as I am not making a lot of money out of it. I live near the bread line and find it hard it make ends meet. My intention about selling produce is to help pay for manure and add a little greenhouse and a small cold frame. The money I make I want to plough back into the plot to make it more fertile as when the day come when I pop my clogs I want to leave the land in a better condition than I found it. Also since the allotment is owned by the Council everything I put on it to improve my plot actually becomes the Councils property.
There are no greengrocer shops in this part of the valley the nearest is 4 miles away and it costs £4.85 bus fare (return) to get there. so I am not in competion with any local shops.
The nearest superstore is 9 miles away
I went to Asdas and Tescos last week both were charging £0.99 for 7 beans I was thinking of charging £1.00 for 3 lbs of beans
Rhubarb was £1.98 for 3 sticks I was thinking of armfull for a Pound
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Powerspade you dont have to explain why you want to sell your excess, just go for it. :) Most of us here do.
I dont know of any allotment that doesnt produce more than we need so we have to do something with it.
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I spend loads more money than I make!
Don't forget the people who buy from you are getting a much better deal! no air miles, fresher produce, don't worry about it!!
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Powerspade I wish I lived near you.
Janet.
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Powerspade I wish I lived near you.
Janet.
Me too, not only for your fresh produce (you can grow loads more than me) But also for the peace and tranquility of being so very rural. I know it can have its downside too.
I used to live miles away from anywhere and loved every minute :D ;)
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We arent allowed to sell our excess off. It seems silly though, as , if I didnt have loads of willing helpers to unload my veg onto, it would have to be left to rot.
I think excesses are necessary, as you never know how well any given crop will do in any given year. It seems like a good way to make a bit of money to cover expenses as needed.
cj :)
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Our lottie rules don't allow us to sell, but as long as you don't do it from the plot there shouldn't be a problem. Or another way round it is to sell them a carrier bag for say £2 and throw in the veg for free. :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oooh kev, you devious little minx, you ;D
cj :)
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hehe! kev i'm liking your style! :D :D
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There is a copperative (I believe originally linked to Defra) Country Markets which encourages people to sell their surplus veg and fruit, plus any products made out of them. I don't think that if Defra were involved in the set up that these are anything dodgy - so should think this low level pin money approach is accepted practice.
www.country-markets.co.uk
Could be a good way to sell surplus as well if you have any this year.
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I do sell my excess raspberries, currently I am selling rhuabard, and in the winter I sold Jerusalem Artichokes. I also intend to sell excess strawberries, and spare plants etc and eggs (when I get my chickens) You will all be so sick of me saying that soon!!
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Old Bird
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I really wish you lived near me. Must be wonderful to be able to buy that lovely home grown produce. (I don't have an allotment) ::)