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Title: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 02, 2015, 19:32:51
It's that time of year again!!
Seville oranges are due to arrive on the market any day.
Anyone seen any yet?

I'm starting "brewing" this evening with some ones from the freezer and hopefully there'll be fresh ones on the market tomorrow.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 03, 2015, 08:00:35
Thanks for the reminder we will check Chesterfield market next week  :wave:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: ACE on January 03, 2015, 08:57:52
Now there's an idea. What are we going to do with all these lemons and limes? she asked, now you are not drinking your gin for  while. Usually we would freeze them in segments to pop straight into drinks, but marmalade! Yes.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 03, 2015, 13:01:28
Now there's an idea. What are we going to do with all these lemons and limes? she asked, now you are not drinking your gin for  while. Usually we would freeze them in segments to pop straight into drinks, but marmalade! Yes.

Sounds like you had a good stock  pile!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Digeroo on January 03, 2015, 14:01:32
I have been put of Seville oranges since I found out they pick the oranges from the trees lining the city streets and sell them in the UK.  Apparently no one in spain wants them. 

Yet Seville is a very heavily polluted city.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 03, 2015, 15:18:05
Seville oranges are grown throughout Andalusia and the rest of Southern Spain, many in traditional rural orange groves.

After all, not all Chelsea buns are baked in Chelsea, and not all plums grown by Victoria!!

So far today I've made 30 jars. Tomorrow I'll start on the Ginger/Whiskey/others. Will have to go back to work on Monday for a rest!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Digeroo on January 03, 2015, 15:45:07
I am sure that Seville oranges are grown in all sorts of places, but they showed them on TV being harvested from the city streets.  I have not eaten marmalade since.

May be the buns are not baked in Chelsea but those which are are not put up someone exhaust pipe.  After all you do not even peel the oranges.   
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Duke Ellington on January 03, 2015, 16:53:19
Pescador please post your recipes for your Marmalade
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Jayb on January 03, 2015, 18:38:24
So far today I've made 30 jars. Tomorrow I'll start on the Ginger/Whiskey/others. Will have to go back to work on Monday for a rest!

Wow, busy busy :sunny:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 03, 2015, 20:45:43
Duke, here you go.

Seville Orange Marmalade.   Prod no. 72          
1.1kg Seville Oranges
2.2l water
1.8kg sugar
1 lemon (juice only)


Juice oranges. Add juice and water to Maslin pan.
Slice oranges as required. Add to pan and simmer for 1 hour
Add sugar and boil to set point.
Cool for 15 mins and bottle



Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: peanuts on January 04, 2015, 08:12:42
My parents always did their marmalade cutting fruit by hand, the traditional way. It made a beautifully flavoured marmalade, but with lots of juice and fewer 'lumps'.  I have always made it using the food processor, and pressure cooker, before cooking it as normal in a big preserving pan.  I blitz the   fruit, minus pips of course, in the food processor, then cook the fruit with half the water in the pressure cooker, 10lbs pressure, for 10 minutes.  After that I do as normal in the big pan with the rest of  the water and the sugar.  I can get 3lbs of fruit in the pressure cooker.  For variation, I might simmer it very gently for a couple of hours  and it will go darker.  Or add whisky at the end. Or  black treacle at the end,for a darker marmalade.  I use the same recipe for lemon marmalade, or grapefruit marmalade.  Did my first batch yesterday.  I'm lucky enough to be able to get organic Seville oranges.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: ACE on January 04, 2015, 09:42:20


Sounds like you had a good stock  pile!

Well you know what these silly supermarkets are like bag of  6 limes or lemons for a quid. Only wanted  a couple but was taken in by the offer. Usually they get frozen in segments and used for ice cubes, but we still had some of those left over from last time. They have all been chucked in the mix, now we have a marmalade glut. Pineapple jam was also made as the pineapples were on clearance after xmas, the supermarket put them in the cheap bin because the top knots were a bit brown. Melon and ginger will be next as they are also clearing out the xmas glut. My breakfast fruit smoothies are also very exotic at the moment.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 04, 2015, 17:54:15
Another 10 jars of Ginger and 10 of Whisky done. 3 day rest now!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: antipodes on January 05, 2015, 10:46:51
I made some last year and there is one jar left so I guess it's time to make some more. Whisky, now there's an idea!
I don't always use bitter oranges but last time I did and it was very nice. I do the painstaking way, squeezing at the juice, cutting out all the membrane and pips into cloth then slicing the peel by hand. Time consuming but the result is a clear jelly and tender slices of peel. I did cheat last time and use a bit of jam sugar but I don't regret it, it was a lovely set.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 05, 2015, 11:49:32
Pescador where are you getting Seville oranges from? We have just walked down to Chesterfield market and tried the market stalls M and S then Lidl on the way back. Stall holder said they are not in the Sheffield wholesalers yet.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: goodlife on January 05, 2015, 13:51:58
I've had look at shops and market in our town and nothing here yet neither.
Last time I bought quite a lot of them was from Chesterfield market and they were just come out....that was end of January then.
Perhaps the supply take tad longer to reach us...or maybe it don't happen until the bulk of them is ready in Spain  :drunken_smilie:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 05, 2015, 14:14:13
Waitrose are advertising organic ones at what I think is reasonable price as I would like organic and prepared to pay bit more as you eat the peel.
Of course no waitrose in Chesterfield!
Frustrating trip to town really as needed to post a registered letter and now the post office is shut the  alternative is hopelessly inadequate with huge ques and hardly any cashiers. Am I going off thread with a rant. Sorry.
Point is a few years ago the local greengrocers would have offered to save some Seville's or let me know when he had them. And the post office was open and the Co op! All shut now.
Rant over off to the allotment!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: goodlife on January 05, 2015, 15:15:01
Quote
Rant over off to the allotment!
It is good to get is off from you chest... :icon_cheers:  You will only do some damage if you bash around with spade with temper still switched on... :tongue3:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Nora42 on January 05, 2015, 17:18:37
yeah my local Waitrose have the oranges in stock so I can start to make marmalade this week - am I bonkers or what after two weeks of barely escaping from the kitchen because everybody is at home and on 3 meals a day I want to be back in there making a most labour intensive preserve.
Nora
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 05, 2015, 20:45:17
I'm having to use ones from the freezer, Pumpkinlover. Last year I bought my first ones on January 5th, and the local greengrocer says he'll have them "this week"
Was going to have a break today, but I managed to get 3 perfectly good cauliflowers at 20p each, so I'm off to make some Piccalilli now. (Good job I'm on the late shift tomorrow!)
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 06, 2015, 15:18:54
Thanks Nora and Pescador!
Well we didn't feel the market trader was very obliging when we asked yesterday so had a trip to Waitrose in Sheffield. Even got changed out of my usual scruffy attire! Like I said to OH when retired you have to make the most of these little trips out.
Just in case all the marmalade makers of South Yorkshire had already got there or the oranges hadn't got this far north I phoned up first to get an update to ensure a worthwhile trip.
Get the preserving pan down !  :blob7:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 06, 2015, 18:08:13
Bought some lovely Sevilles from the local greengrocer this morning for only 69p/lb. Last year they were 87or 89p!!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 06, 2015, 18:22:21
Bought some lovely Sevilles from the local greengrocer this morning for only 69p/lb. Last year they were 87or 89p!!

Thanks Pescador!  You are lucky to have a local greengrocer ours shut about 15 years ago. He used to drop off my shopping if I was walking and bring all the "past it " and trimmings for my composting. Now that's service  :toothy10:
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Nora42 on January 06, 2015, 18:42:38
I got mine today they are soaking over night I use the long method of making marmalade not the whole fruit one but I am considering using ordinary sugar not demerara sugar as it works out more expensive - but then I may do another batch to compare the price / quality/colour
Nora
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: lottie lou on January 08, 2015, 19:01:50
I got mine today they are soaking over night I use the long method of making marmalade not the whole fruit one but I am considering using ordinary sugar not demerara sugar as it works out more expensive - but then I may do another batch to compare the price / quality/colour
Nora

What is the long method please Nora
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Nora42 on January 09, 2015, 12:20:16
Hi lottie Lou,

the long method just means washing and slicing up the fruit into shreds before cooking it produces brighter peel colours than when the fruit is boiled whole and then sliced. You soak the fruit in the juice and water 24 hours before cooking.
hope that helps Nora
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 29, 2015, 10:25:59
Well, this is a record for me! Bought some beautiful Sevilles today @ 89p/lb. Great quality and a week earlier than last year.
Let brewing commence!!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 29, 2016, 12:47:59
Exactly the same date and price this year!
Can't start brewing until Sunday as we've got family visiting, so there's 6kg of beautiful oranges just sitting in the garage, and I'm locking away the whisky and orange liqueur so that I don't demolish them before using them as intended!

For those who were worried about oranges being used from the trees in the streets, check-out this website, www.huertaavemaria.com to see how they're really produced!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 12, 2017, 16:08:06
Seville Orange, Ginger, Whisky and Orange & Blueberry with Orange Liqueur marmalades done and in the stock room.
New flavour being considered, Cane Sugar and Rum Marmalade, aka Pirates Marmalade!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 27, 2017, 12:01:40
Absolutely smashed my record for the earliest purchase date. 22nd December this year!! I spoke to my nearest greengrocer last week, and he said they were in the wholesale market, but he wasn't buying any before Christmas as no one wanted them.
I said I'd buy a complete box, so they didn't even have to go into the shop, but he wasn't interested.
Quick phone call to one in the next town and he got me an 18kg box at 1.25p/kg (57p/lb).
Picked them up at 07.30 on Friday morning and had finished 2 brews by lunchtime!
Then a break for Christmas celebrations, and back to brewing again! By the end of the year I'll have 5 different marmalades available.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on December 28, 2017, 07:58:18
We will be on the lookout now.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 31, 2017, 08:19:03
Production in full flow now with Seville, Ginger, Whisky, Orange &Blueberry with Orange Liqueur, and Cane Sugar Ginger and Rum. Now I've just got to ramp up the volume while Sevilles are still in season.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: pumkinlover on January 03, 2018, 07:54:40
I got some on New year's Eve !
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: suncekoret on January 07, 2018, 19:00:59
Made mine just before Christmas - 2kg Sevilles made 12 jars but it took 2 hours to chop all the peel

Like others I think its really important to use organic oranges for marmalade to avoid the pesticides and fungicides and disinectants

Sweet oranges may also have orange colouring sprayed on post harvest " to improve appearance"  Take Care!
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on January 09, 2018, 16:13:08
How sharp is your knife, Suncekoret? I am by no means a fast slicer but can do 1.1kg in 30 minutes for a medium peel. Add 5 mins  for a fine cut and reduce 5 mins for a coarse cut.
One pass of the knife is all that's needed, no sawing movement, so if you're having to move the knife back and fore, it's taking you a lot longer. So you just need to sharpen your knife properly.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Obelixx on January 09, 2018, 19:15:43
I came across a recipe for blood orange and chilli marmalade on BBC Good Food website yesterday.   Now I just have to wait for organic blood oranges to appear on sale.   I thought they were in season about now but haven't seen any yet.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 29, 2018, 09:49:18
Well, I'm really struggling this year, can't find a Seville anywhere!!
Anyone seen any?
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Vinlander on December 29, 2018, 11:04:53
Now there's an idea. What are we going to do with all these lemons and limes? she asked, now you are not drinking your gin for  while. Usually we would freeze them in segments to pop straight into drinks, but marmalade! Yes.

The zest goes into boring vodka or schnapps for a month, the juice goes into cheap sterilised orange juice ~5% makes it better than the most expensive stuff you can buy.

I must get a Yuzu this year...

Cheers.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Obelixx on December 29, 2018, 15:08:46
I thought Seville oranges weren't in season till later in January so it's a bit early yet.

I have a yuzu but it is still small so no fruit yet but the Meyer lemon and limquat are in full fruiting mode in the polytunnel.
Title: Re: My Perennial Question
Post by: Pescador on December 29, 2018, 16:26:30
Normally available late December. Got 5kg in Waitrose this afternoon, bloody pricey but at least I can get brewing!
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