Author Topic: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.  (Read 8109 times)

George the Pigman

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For many years to prevent devastation of our brassicas by the local large population of wood pigeons I and others on my site have used scaffolders debris netting  supported by hoops to cover them. Its supposed to stop butterflies getting in but I am more sceptical about the latter. Problem is though I think it blocks off a fair amount of light. Does anyone use an alternative?

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Re: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2024, 07:25:22 »
I use debris netting for brassicas too. I havenít been aware of any problems with lack of light. All kinds of brassicas develop well. Iím wondering whether youíve noticed any problems with your brassicas which might be caused by poor light?
When butterflies have found a way in I have usually found that thereís a small hole somewhere or I hadnít pegged it down quite well enough. Iíve heard of people sowing up the black seams, which tend to have bigger gaps, but Iíve not done that and havenít felt the need to.
The alternatives are black butterfly netting, either the softer kind or the more obviously plastic stiffer kind. . Both are more expensive. The softer kind catch and are rather easily damaged I find, and the stiffer kind is just not as pleasant to handle. I imagine they let more light in though.
And then thereís mesh such as Enviromesh.  I donít know how the light filtration compares but again itís quite expensive.
Brassicas can stand a certain amount of shade so my own feeling is that debris netting works well but Iíd be interested to know your experiences, G the P.

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Re: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2024, 08:11:50 »
I use debris netting and haven't noticed any problems with light levels.

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Re: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2024, 08:37:25 »
I use rigid netting with 7mm gauge mesh on my brassicas. The butterflies can't get through it but can lay eggs through it if there's a leaf in range. It cuts out a bit of light but not enough to seem to be an issue.

I use 19mm gauge flexible netting on my peas and fruit. It's easier to store than the rigid netting. The pigeons will reach through from a convenient perch (such as the hoops!), so you need to take that into account in the design.

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Re: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2024, 19:10:47 »
JanG I've noticed this year over winter the Purple Sprouting Broccoli were exceptionally tall as were the Brussels Sprouts so I wondered if they were stretching for the light. Not noticed a problem in summer over the years.
Another problem is the eyelets that scaffolders use to attach it to the scaffolding can be accessed by insects as you point out and often the lines of them down the middle seem to split in strong winds.
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Re: Type of netting to protect plants from wood pigeon damage.
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2024, 05:53:04 »
JanG I've noticed this year over winter the Purple Sprouting Broccoli were exceptionally tall as were the Brussels Sprouts so I wondered if they were stretching for the light. Not noticed a problem in summer over the years.
Another problem is the eyelets that scaffolders use to attach it to the scaffolding can be accessed by insects as you point out and often the lines of them down the middle seem to split in strong winds.

Interesting. My PSB has been very tall lately too, but Iíve put it down to favourable growing conditions. In fact Iíve abandoned the debris netting when theyíve got to a certain height as I canít peg it down any more, and replaced it with roughly draped  black netting simply to keep the pigeons off. Could your purple sprouting and brussel spouts simply be happy and vigorous?!
Iíve not had debris netting split at the eyelet seams and, as above, Iíve noticed very little insect, including butterfly, damage through those eyelets. Iím thinking that most insects, like aphids and whitefly, will collect under any mesh etc., and the occasional incursion of butterfly eggs is reasonably easily dealt with.
Of course, debris netting wonít keep flea beetles off at the early stage of development.

 

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