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galina

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2022, 09:23:34 »
Yes, I see your point.  My last broad bean saving was the small black Syrians that fit very easily.  A relatively expensive solution would be to construct a 'build a ball' cage.  https://www.harrodhorticultural.com/build-a-ball-connectors-12-pack-pid7577.html?Aff=GPL&gclid=CjwKCAjwv-GUBhAzEiwASUMm4v87k1o1A4FEu4_7LrRa6LrWOfVsPCVt9Wc7Kut7841xhKvPSBCEpRoC7vgQAvD_BwE

But a series of sturdy sticks or bamboos in the ground with fleece draped over, which needs upturned plastic bottles over the top of the sticks to stop the fleece from tearing, draped around the broad beans should also work.  The bottles could be anything, but I have seen the tiny probiotic drinks bottles in use on an allotment visit for a temporary fruit cage with netting.  No reason why fleece would not work just as well. 

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2022, 09:23:34 »

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2022, 06:04:17 »
Thanks Galina. I use Build-a ball quite a lot with aluminium poles of various lengths, which Iíve collected over the years, so indeed a complete cage is quite possible. I think I was looking for a way to isolate a smaller amount - just the flowers perhaps on individual plants - so that if I grow six or seven different varieties, itís not too great an undertaking. Iíll continue to experiment and, when very precious to me, will build a complete cage as you suggest.

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2022, 10:22:01 »
Jan, Isolating individual flowers or flower trusses is easy with organza baggies.  You know the wedding favour bags.  They come in various sizes, their drawstrings makes fixing onto plants easy.  And they are very reasonably priced. 

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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2022, 18:52:31 »
Yes, I have some small ones but I think I need to get hold of some larger ones for clusters of broad bean flowers.

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2022, 09:16:17 »
Is there a pruning technique for the tomatillos? I'd like them to grow a larger and bushier frame. Currently they're on one main stem with an umbrella-shaped canopy, with lots of flowers at the top. No idea whether this is normal and I should just let them get on with it.

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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2022, 09:20:46 »
I am not aware of a pruning technique.  When too tall, stake and tie up is how I bring mine under control.  As they take a longish time to mature fruit anyway, I would hesitate to wait for bushier sideshoot growth to come to fruition.  But I am happy to learn if you experiment with pruning. 

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2022, 05:31:35 »
I grew tomatillos for the first time last year. I didnít prune at all, nor did I find mine needed staking. They bushed out eventually but not all the way down. I think they simply stopped putting on height at about 2í6Ē to 3í perhaps.
This year Iím finding Queen of Malinalco extra vigorous so it might exceed that height and outgrow its space on the greenhouse staging.

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2022, 05:32:17 »
I grew tomatillos for the first time last year. I didnít prune at all, nor did I find mine needed staking. They bushed out eventually but not all the way down. I think they simply stopped putting on height at about 2í6Ē to 3í perhaps.
This year Iím finding Queen of Malinalco extra vigorous so it might exceed that height and outgrow its space on the greenhouse staging.

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2022, 07:25:37 »
My Qu o M are in the corner of the greenhouse, leaning against the glass.  On the inside of the group I have stuck 3 5ft bamboos into the ground.  As the plants get taller I will 'corral' them with string between the bamboos on the inside, so they don't lean or fall onto the adjacent pepper plants further in the greenhouse. 

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2022, 08:55:03 »
We had a discussion about Pastoral and which seed type is the correct one.  I have 5 plants, 4 with green stems and white flowers.  They are now  just over 5 foot tall and flowering.  The odd one out which I planted to the side of the group out has a reddish stem, lilac purple flower and tops the 8ft support already.  Hybrid vigor?  I suspect the white flowering, slightly less vigorous plants are the correct version.  Will observe further. 

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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2022, 14:59:27 »
One of the QoM plants has an egg-sized fruit. Poor thing is still in a 9cm pot. I'm wondering if they would do better outside the polytunnel with plenty of room. It does get extremely hot in there.

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2022, 05:43:58 »
My Q of M responded very quickly to being potted on into a 1.5 litre pot and is twice the size of a couple of others I was much slower to pot on.No fruit yet.

Iím struggling to remember the details of the discussion about Pastoral but last year mine had the two colours of flower too. It was the white-flowered plants which were the first of any of my beans to produce pods.

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Re: Seed Saving Circle 2022
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2022, 06:52:13 »
Not here yet, but they are definitely at the early end of the spectrum.  First tiny beans here are on Salewski's Ungarn. 

 

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