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No idea but please note that glyphosate does not biodegrade in the soil.It becomes inactive when not in contact with green growth in your garden or arable crops but seeps into water courses where it is active and affects aquatic plants as well as turning up in water consumed by humans as well as any pastoral critters - cattle, sheep, pigs and wildlife - as well as aquatic creatures.Unless you have acres of mare's tail the simplest treatment is to hoe or strim it regularly and let it dry before composting or else make the purin I mentioned. Any plant starved of its food factory - the foliage above ground - will weaken and die tho maybe not overnight.
Quote from: Obelixx on April 28, 2023, 21:30:44No idea but please note that glyphosate does not biodegrade in the soil.Thanks,I'm drawn to this Ammonium sulfamate because it's a much simpler chemical, with a fair chance of breaking down completely.
No idea but please note that glyphosate does not biodegrade in the soil.
You can just pee on your compost heap. It's a great accelerator too and convenient.
No, hoeing will do that and composting all the debris will lead to soil improvement so pee away to get it going.
I my experience no safe chemicals will touch mares tail. My plots were over run with it. when digging a deep trench for beans i could find the network of black roots 60cm down... the only answer it to dig it up where it pops up , get it all, every little bit left will grow again. So 23 years on , i have nearly irradiated it , nearly ... well apparently it was around at the same time as the dinosaurs ...
Forget chemicals for nuking!! They are horrendous for soil organisms from microbe level to invertebrates and bigger things you can actually see.Just keep cutting or hoeing back the stems you can see until the potaitoes and other crops get big enough to cope and swamp it themselves. Once the spuds are ready for harvest, fork them out and separate and thoroughly dry out any marestail stems and roots then bin or compost them. Hoe and rake the soil thoroughly then cover your soil with cardboard and wet it before planting your next crop through it.The cardboard will restrict light and weaken marestail growth and make it easier to see/water/nurture your follow on crop. Keep doing this with all your crop rotations and you will eventually win. If you don't like the look of the cardboard, cover it with greenery such as pulled weeds, grass cuttings, potato haulms etc and let it rot down in situ. An don't forget the maretsail "soup"!! It's good for :Fights the spread of plant diseases, including cryptogamic diseases: downy mildew, powdery mildew, rust, scab, peach leaf curl, etc.Preventive fight against rust, blister, brown rot and scabRepellent capacities against mites and leek worm
Marestail roots can go down for metres so there's plenty of energy there for making new shootsuntil you reach the point where you've removed enough of the shoots and often enough to prevent any energy being resupplied and then the roots will weaken.Do try and save some of your hoeings for making the purin as it can help against potato and tomato blight as well as peach leaf curl and all sorts of other fingal problems:1kg horsetail stems9 litres rainwaterCrush the stems and steep them in the water, covered, for 2 weeks or till it all turns black. Do not use a metal container. Strain the resulting goo and keep in sealed bottles. Dilute 1 part purin to 9 parts water and spray in spring or autumn when fungal problems are most prevalent.There are several threads about marestail/horsetail on the GW forum and one chap says he weakened his by spreading lime which would be a good idea anyway when/if you plant to plant brassicas.
Quote from: Obelixx on May 03, 2023, 20:16:51Forget chemicals for nuking!! Just keep cutting or hoeing back the stems you can see until the potaitoes and other crops get big enough to cope and swamp it themselves. ...Hoe and rake the soil thoroughly then cover your soil with cardboard and wet it before planting your next crop through it.The cardboard will restrict light and weaken marestail growth and make it easier to see/water/nurture your follow on crop. Keep doing this with all your crop rotations and you will eventually win. If you don't like the look of the cardboard, cover it with greenery such as pulled weeds, grass cuttings, potato haulms etc and let it rot down in situ. Thank you.I take your organic advice with gratitude. On Glyphosphate, I concede that it is a bit evil. The sulphamate will get experimented with, but I accept that is being a bit defiant against yourself. Please don't take it personally.I'm going to try the approach "Never let it see a Sunday". That will be hoeing, plucking or pulling every shhot, every week, before they reach 3 inches.
Forget chemicals for nuking!! Just keep cutting or hoeing back the stems you can see until the potaitoes and other crops get big enough to cope and swamp it themselves. ...Hoe and rake the soil thoroughly then cover your soil with cardboard and wet it before planting your next crop through it.The cardboard will restrict light and weaken marestail growth and make it easier to see/water/nurture your follow on crop. Keep doing this with all your crop rotations and you will eventually win. If you don't like the look of the cardboard, cover it with greenery such as pulled weeds, grass cuttings, potato haulms etc and let it rot down in situ.
It will be hard work this year but perseverance will weaken it and it will become manageable and easier to control as the seasons go by. Do try liming the soil as it thrives in acidic conditions.