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nodig

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survey - who owns your plot?
« on: November 21, 2018, 10:34:35 »
Hi plotters.  We all dig the land but who owns it?  Could the forum members help with this little survey.  Who owns the land that you have your plot on? I am just interested nothing sinister.  I expect most will say council owned (town council or parish council), but let's find out. I will start - my plot is on privately owned land.

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2018, 10:45:08 »
Parish council with allotment spokeswoman acting as go-between. :happy7:

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2018, 11:41:30 »
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2018, 12:12:24 »
Currently borough council.

In transition though. It is proposed that the freehold moves soon from the borough to the local parish council.
Probably won't make much difference.

Slightly different to some allotments. We are "field managed" and for most issues run our own affairs with a committee of about ten plot holders and four elected officers (a field manager, a shop manager, a secretary, and a treasurer), rather than being run directly by the council.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2018, 12:21:36 by Beersmith »
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2018, 12:48:23 »
We are Metropolitan Council owned! Each site has a Secretary to act as a go between / Liaison between the council and the plot holders. 

Technically they have no powers as such but tell them that! A couple of the 5 Secretaries I have been involved with over the thirty odd years I have been on the plots thought they were gods after being elected.

If only they knew that they got the job because no one else wanted it!

We have a bit of a social committee (secretary & treasurer) who organise the Christmas dinner,Open day and collect rents from those who have a raised  bed/s in the communal tunnel. The money collected is saved to maintain the tunnel e.g replacing the skin when required. We also run a raffle at the Xmas dinner for the same cause!

 

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2018, 13:40:19 »
Me - well it is my back garden.

Before that I was on a private site. The association waited 5 years for land and with council help. The land was owned by a farmer nothing to do with the association.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2018, 14:43:12 »
I own mine too.  Bought the house because it had a ready enclosed perfect space for a veggie plot - don't always want help from the dogs and may put chucks in there one day.  Scope too for ornamentals and wildlife.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2018, 18:34:05 »
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2018, 18:39:37 »
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2018, 19:46:23 »
 allotment association we own our own land the morgage ran 1921 to i think around 1950  its now a prime building site we have had offers in the past however we are all share holders so up to now been able to fend off investors its a little haven  in town
johhnyc015  may the plot be with you

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 22:20:23 »
. . . we own our own land  . . . we are all share holders . . .  its a little haven  in town . . .

I, for one, salute you all. Long may it continue. Long may it thrive.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 11:33:31 »
First allotment was a parish site, then a council allotment after we moved.  But it was not guaranteed to be available for a long time into the future.  It was land behind the cemetery and designed to be used for that purpose in the fullness of time, but used as allotments whilst not yet needed. 

Then we moved away to the sticks, now on a third of an acre plot.  We are officially just about within the town boundaries, but well over two miles from the town centre on a long road with few houses and farmers fields behind our gardens on both sides.  :wave:


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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2018, 11:53:44 »
Quote
It was land behind the cemetery and designed to be used for that purpose in the fullness of time, but used as allotments whilst not yet needed. 

Snap!

To get to my plot I have to enter it by the Cemetery Gates.

Over the years there have been numerous rumours about extending the cemetery over the allotment site but this seems to have failed as it would place the extension too close to nearby houses which contravenes Planning Laws.

Having said that; it looks to be on the cards again as this year the council has been drilling bore holes to check the 'water table' and marking trees that will need felling if the project goes ahead!

Rumour has it they are going to use the area where we park our cars which is further away from the houses as a 'Children's Cemetery'  so it looks a bit more probable to me this time!

Me moving out on my own volition rather than being evicted might might turn out to be a good thing in the end.  :wave:

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2018, 10:02:31 »
We rent Network Rail land
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2018, 09:25:48 »
Land Ownership Survey results - in descending order..... 

6 Borough/Metropolitan Council
3 Own land
2 Privately owned
1 Parish Council
1 Association owned


So as I expected Borough/Metropolitan councils are the biggest player.

Small survey but I will update if more plotters add to this survey.

many thanks

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2018, 09:44:13 »
Parish Council...

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2018, 11:28:52 »
 An allotment association that sets a few common sense rules but pays the rent to a local farmer.

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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2018, 16:17:01 »
6 Borough/Metropolitan Council
3 Own land
3 Privately owned
2 Parish Council
1 Association owned

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2018, 16:51:05 »

6 Borough/Metropolitan Council
2 Parish Council
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3 Own land
3 Privately owned
1 Association owned
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Fairly even between Private and Publicly owned land then. My feelings before this exercise was that the result would be more Council/Publicly owned land !

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2018, 23:46:46 »
Do not worry, Tee Gee, sampling to estimate a proportion requires a random sample (this is not random) and a sample size of about 100 in order for the observed results to be within about + or - 10% of the true value.

Just one of nodig's bit of fun threads. The results don't mean anything much.

What we did learn that I thought interesting, was the existence of an association owned site.
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