Topic: Seed Sharing Circle 2015 and growing progress

[Jayb]

Provisional list of varieties being saved for seed,

Markfield rover – tomatoes Dwarf Wax (HSL), Veepro Paste (HSL), Vince (HSL), Wild Tomatel Columbianum (HSL). Chickpea Hannan pop bean.
Silverleaf - Telephone peas, landrace beans.
Sparrow – possible squashes & peppers.
Robert_Brenchley – brassicas maybe Di Sicilia Violetto cauliflowers, perennial tree kale
Galina - Lettuce
Earlypea - Red Swan DFB and Sokol breadseed poppy
Debs - Cymbopogan flexuosus (East Indian Lemongrass)

updated http://seedsaverscircle.org/seed-circle/a4a-seed-saver-group-2015/

[galina]

And I have got a 'new to me' lettuce - Hyper Red Rumple Waved.  Who can resist such a name.

Red lettuces are not only pretty but a little more safe from slugs.  And the 'rumples' hold on nicely to salad dressing too.  According to the pictures, this one is  v e r y   red.

Now they sound familiar?

Adaptive Seed 

[markfield rover]

Landrace seems good to me too, I might also try David Chappell runner bean and there will be dahlia .

[Jayb]

And I have got a 'new to me' lettuce - Hyper Red Rumple Waved.  Who can resist such a name.

Red lettuces are not only pretty but a little more safe from slugs.  And the 'rumples' hold on nicely to salad dressing too.  According to the pictures, this one is  v e r y   red.

Now they sound familiar?

Adaptive Seed 

Ahh, just found them in the to sow box 'Hyper Red Crumble', they look delish. Mine are from Denieuwetuin. Better info on Adaptive Seeds site though.

[Jayb]

I might also try David Chappell runner bean.

Do you have any information along with the seeds? I was sent David Chappell as my HSL lucky dip in December. Haven't found out much although they seem to have been put forward to RHS Plant Trials and Awards in 2007 ."The trial also included two heritage cultivars that are not EU-listed, ‘Black Emperor’ and ‘David Chappell’" but no further mention. http://apps.rhs.org.uk/planttrials/TrialReports/Bean%20Runner%202006.pdf
I added a picture of the seeds http://seedsaverscircle.org/2014/12/runner-beans/attachment/027/

[Robert_Brenchley]

I wont have di Siciliana Violetto because only one plant has survived the frosts. I may still be able to cross Iit with something though.

[galina]

I might also try David Chappell runner bean.

Do you have any information along with the seeds? I was sent David Chappell as my HSL lucky dip in December. Haven't found out much although they seem to have been put forward to RHS Plant Trials and Awards in 2007 ."The trial also included two heritage cultivars that are not EU-listed, ‘Black Emperor’ and ‘David Chappell’" but no further mention. http://apps.rhs.org.uk/planttrials/TrialReports/Bean%20Runner%202006.pdf
I added a picture of the seeds http://seedsaverscircle.org/2014/12/runner-beans/attachment/027/

From the 2014 HSL catalogue:  Named after our donor and bred from 'Prizewinner' and 'Achievement' by Dr W Florida in Pwllmeyrick, near Chepstow in 1936.  Some were passed to our donor's brother in 194, and then to David, who has grown them ever since.  An exceptionally heavy cropper with up to nine beans in each long pod.  Requires strong supports.

[Jayb]

I wont have di Siciliana Violetto because only one plant has survived the frosts. I may still be able to cross Iit with something though.

Shame, they are a lovely variety, hope you get to use it in a cross though. What are you thinking of crossing with it?

[Jayb]

Thanks Galina, don't know how I missed them in the catalogue 

[Jayb]

So far for the circle I'm thinking Calendula 'Winter Wonders’ and Snow pea Usui if they are any good.

[Robert_Brenchley]

Depends what flowers, Jayb. Some sort of kale; the biennial ones will definitly flower. Daubentons would be ideal, or the perennial tree kales, though the result might be a triffid. Its a pity because its a nice variety, but frost sensitive. I was hoping that some would make it - I had three till that last cold spell- and over a few years I might get a more resistant strain. I dont know what you get by crossing a cauliflower with a kale, but something like a perenial broccoli would be nice.

[Jayb]

They all sound like good possibilities, though the height might be an issue with tree kale types, but if it were multi heading it might be excellent! Good work, look forward to your progress. If you need a few plants grown out for trials in the future, give us a shoot.

[Robert_Brenchley]

I will, as long as that last plant survives! If not, theyll join the list of varieties which have to wait till I can get a pytunnel.

[Jayb]

Well double fingers crossed here  it survives and you get the chance 

[Jayb]

Updated provisional list of varieties being saved for seed,

Markfield rover – tomatoes Dwarf Wax (HSL), Veepro Paste (HSL), Vince (HSL), Wild Tomatel Columbianum (HSL). Chickpea Hannan pop bean, David Chappell runner bean,  dahlia.
Silverleaf - Telephone peas, landrace beans.
Sparrow – Lazy Housewife CFB or Nun's Belly Button DFB and possible squashes & pepper.
Robert_Brenchley –perennial tree kale
Galina - Lettuce
Earlypea - Red Swan DFB and Sokol breadseed poppy
Debs - Cymbopogan flexuosus (East Indian Lemongrass)
Jayb - Calendula 'Winter Wonders’, Snow pea Usui

Edit to add Lazy Housewife CFB or Nun's Belly Button DFB

[sparrow]

I'd like to add in a bean too please - most likely either lazy housewife CFB or Nun's belly button DFB if they haven't been offered too recently.

[Jayb]

I don't think we have had Nun's Belly Button and I can't remember if Aj added Lazy Housewife or not, but it would have been a few years ago if she did. Either would be good 

[sparrow]

As a very quick tangent - for those of you who have saved salsify seed, how much do you get? I've carefully re-planted 5 of my better roots and am hoping for some seed after they flower this year. (To be honest, I just want to see what the flowers look & smell like, seeds will be a bonus)

[Silverleaf]

As a very quick tangent - for those of you who have saved salsify seed, how much do you get? I've carefully re-planted 5 of my better roots and am hoping for some seed after they flower this year. (To be honest, I just want to see what the flowers look & smell like, seeds will be a bonus)

I've only grown scorzonera (black salsify) but I think they are similar. Scorzonera flowers are yellow and look somewhere between a daisy and a dandelion - salsify flowers are blue I think. The flowers on my scorzonera smelled gorgeous, and reminded me of coconut and vanilla in a floral kind of way. Bees like them, my rabbit loved eating them, and each flower gives you a "puff" of seeds with fluff on kind of like a bigger, coarser dandelion seed.

[sparrow]

Thanks Silverleaf. As long as I remember, I'll try and stick a bag over the flowers when they are finished so the seeds aren't whisked away!