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E petition re Provision of Allotments
« on: May 08, 2014, 06:48:37 »
Hi All from an email I have just received from HM Government it would appear that the e-petition I signed about Eric Pickles being asked to remove the Council's responsibility to provide allotments is not true. This is refreshing news to know that we are safe. Has anyone else received this email or am I being duped again :-O
 



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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2014, 07:30:00 »
I've just received the same email.
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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2014, 07:30:27 »
I am not aware of this one. Lets hope this is good news.
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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2014, 10:11:23 »
I received my reply this morning, this is a copy of it for those who did not get one;

    
Dear Xxxxxxxxxxxx

The e-petition 'Tell Eric Pickles that allotments must not be sold off!' signed by you recently reached 18,821 signatures and a response has been made to it.

As this e-petition has received more than 10 000 signatures, the relevant Government department have provided the following response: An e-petition has been suggesting that the Department for Communities and Local Government is examining plans to remove council duties to provide allotments. This is completely untrue and has no basis in fact. In 2011, the Government compiled a list of statutory duties that councils must follow, but Ministers made very clear to Parliament there were no plans to change any of the duties on allotments (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110524/text/110524w0008.htm#1105257001663). This remains the case. Local authorities continue to have a specific responsibility for the management and provision of allotments in their area, ensuring those who want to start an allotment can do so. There are no plans to change this, and the e-petition’s claims are simply false. In January 2014, the Department published Allotment Disposal Guidance: Safeguards and alternatives (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/allotment-disposal-guidance-safeguards-and-alternatives), replacing the previous guidance from 2002. The new guidance strengthens allotment protection, as the requirement for waiting lists to be taken into account must now be rigorously applied to all that council’s waiting lists, not just the waiting list for the site to be disposed of. This aims to ensure that poorly maintained sites are not used to justify disposal. The Government has introduced a range of measures to help communities who want land to grow fruit and vegetables. Through new community rights, local residents have increased opportunities to protect existing allotments from development and increase provision of green spaces. For example, in Thame, in Oxfordshire, their new neighbourhood plan will create an additional hectare of allotment land. Allotments have also been listed as assets of community value. As part of our commitment to supporting local community groups, the Department has also published a best practice guide for community groups wanting to find land to grow fruit and vegetables (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/space-for-food-growing-a-guide) and an additional guide on establishing community orchards and other spaces for food growing (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/community-orchards-a-how-to-guide). This e-petition remains open to signatures and will be considered for debate by the Backbench Business Committee should it pass the 100 000 signature threshold.

View the response to the e-petition

Thanks,

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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 12:55:35 »
Yes..I received it too.
I haven't looked to the responses yet...but as for the email that TeeGee kindly copied...even this petition is being 'false'..at least it has kicked in response from the 'authorities' and given us conformation that 'all should be ok'...?! At least they know that people are still on look out and it is issue that is still very 'hot topic' amongst growers....maybe it will slow down any future 'plans' that they may have in 'back burner' and should they want it to be slipped in through 'back door'....
Being suspicious of government and their tactics?....yes, always.. :icon_cheers:
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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2014, 21:16:56 »
Got mine today also.   :wave:

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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 13:06:56 »
I think that the Tories realise what a dreadful vote loser it would be to them amongst two groups that they regard as being normally their support at election time, old people (who for whatever reason frequently vote tory but do have allotments) and people whose parents have allotments and will get to watch their loved ones decline if they lost them.... and they've got an awful lot of marginal constituencies where a group of organised old people getting a bee in their bonnet would lose the seat, th eLibDems would ahve voted against it too, young middle-class families being the "new allotmenteers" would be spitting feathers into their Pinot G adn firing off emails to the Guardian....

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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 23:08:39 »
I am confused.  I thought that Eric Pickles had just agreed to the sale of 59 allotment site for development. 

Are they saying now this is not happening?

One moment they are strengthening the guidelines and the next they are selling off the allotments.
I think that the petition need to keep going.

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Re: E petition re Provision of Allotments
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 08:20:19 »
It has long been on the statute book that councils (and others) who wish to close an allotment site that has statutory allotment status must apply to the Secretary of State who has responsibility for allotments.

Statutory allotments are simply those where the land contract states that it can only be used for allotments.

Applications to the Secretary of State are to seek a change of use for the land, not to close the site ... although that is inevitably the endgame.

It follows that if a site does not have statutory status the council does not need to apply to the Secretary of State.

Without getting into the debate on the natural desire to keep allotments, Pickles is doing what many other Secretaries of State of all political persuasions have done before him ... granting permission for a change of usage to the majority of applications.

So this is not just some new Tory wheeze.

The e-petition, while it's heart is undoubtedly in the right place, is somewhat misguided (at least in the way that it is phrased).
« Last Edit: May 21, 2014, 08:25:01 by BAK »

 

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