Thanks B'Nick, I forgot to add that after " the identity of this site has not been verified" it also said 'the connection is not encrypted'. Which is why I didn't proceed, I checked a couple of times last week, same thing although as you say today it appears ok. Seems odd they would let their certificate run out? I thought I had emailed them and was waiting for a response, but I can't find it in my outbox! So is it safe to use now or better to snail trail it?