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Thought this was Gumpy woman's rant anyway ;D
QuoteHowever, bear in mind what made us smarter than the rest of the lifeforms here was cooking and eating meat, and we've had at least 12 million years as primates to adapt to it. The other point here is that modern vegetables are nothing like the sort of vegetables that were kicking around 3+ milliion years ago. Todays vegatables have been highly selectively cultivated to massively increase there nutritional value. If you tried being vegetarian 12 milliion years ago, you'd have a very short, sickly life, but no problem getting a job as a size zero model................I thought it was the ability to control fire, and the use of tools that gave humans the evolutionary advantage?and is it 12 million years, or 3 million years, there's a little difference in the 2 figures you quote!!
However, bear in mind what made us smarter than the rest of the lifeforms here was cooking and eating meat, and we've had at least 12 million years as primates to adapt to it. The other point here is that modern vegetables are nothing like the sort of vegetables that were kicking around 3+ milliion years ago. Todays vegatables have been highly selectively cultivated to massively increase there nutritional value. If you tried being vegetarian 12 milliion years ago, you'd have a very short, sickly life, but no problem getting a job as a size zero model................
And it was the high nutrition diet from switching to meat eating that must have been one of the main causes of the massive development of human brains.
There wer eother contributory factors as well, such as the move away from brachiation and quadropedism.
Quote And it was the high nutrition diet from switching to meat eating that must have been one of the main causes of the massive development of human brains. must have? are you an evolutionary biologist, perchance?and you missed the opportunity to respond to the slight difference in timespan, 3milion years vs 12 million years.you really must try harder ;)
No im not an evolutionary biologists, but I am vastly better read on the subject than you apparantly are:
Quote from: tonybloke on October 13, 2011, 10:28:23QuoteHowever, bear in mind what made us smarter than the rest of the lifeforms here was cooking and eating meat, and we've had at least 12 million years as primates to adapt to it. The other point here is that modern vegetables are nothing like the sort of vegetables that were kicking around 3+ milliion years ago. Todays vegatables have been highly selectively cultivated to massively increase there nutritional value. If you tried being vegetarian 12 milliion years ago, you'd have a very short, sickly life, but no problem getting a job as a size zero model................Speech is not entirely controlled/formulated in the Brocas area of the brain. There are also well recorded research papers on chimps/Bonobos who can use sign in a creative way to generate new/expanded meaning.Modern vegetarians are well nourished and proven to be less prevalent to many serious conditions, including Bowel Cancers.They are as intellectually diverse as omnivores, and are not any more prone to being size zero models.As with any person, so called category of person...they are diverse...just like any other so-called category.This was an interesting articlehttp://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/09/us/new-testing-on-fossil-remains-indicates-prehistoric-man-ate-balanced-diet.html
QuoteHowever, bear in mind what made us smarter than the rest of the lifeforms here was cooking and eating meat, and we've had at least 12 million years as primates to adapt to it. The other point here is that modern vegetables are nothing like the sort of vegetables that were kicking around 3+ milliion years ago. Todays vegatables have been highly selectively cultivated to massively increase there nutritional value. If you tried being vegetarian 12 milliion years ago, you'd have a very short, sickly life, but no problem getting a job as a size zero model................Speech is not entirely controlled/formulated in the Brocas area of the brain. There are also well recorded research papers on chimps/Bonobos who can use sign in a creative way to generate new/expanded meaning.Modern vegetarians are well nourished and proven to be less prevalent to many serious conditions, including Bowel Cancers.They are as intellectually diverse as omnivores, and are not any more prone to being size zero models.As with any person, so called category of person...they are diverse...just like any other so-called category.This was an interesting articlehttp://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/09/us/new-testing-on-fossil-remains-indicates-prehistoric-man-ate-balanced-diet.html
QuoteNo im not an evolutionary biologists, but I am vastly better read on the subject than you apparantly are: when I took my degree in science, we at least had to be able to spell words like 'apparently' LOL
Quote from: tonybloke on October 13, 2011, 19:49:49QuoteNo im not an evolutionary biologists, but I am vastly better read on the subject than you apparantly are: when I took my degree in science, we at least had to be able to spell words like 'apparently' LOLSee, on every forum, theres always the Internet Grammar Nazi. The guy who has no debating skills, beyond picking holes in the keyboarding. It is indeed the most pathetic way to try and look clever there is.........
That sucks ??? hope he gets help, its wrong when a person is trying to better there life and the future for there family I feel sorry for him,our daughter went though the same type of thing, she did get through it ,has a good job now,best of luck.
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on October 13, 2011, 21:12:29Quote from: tonybloke on October 13, 2011, 19:49:49QuoteNo im not an evolutionary biologists, but I am vastly better read on the subject than you apparantly are: when I took my degree in science, we at least had to be able to spell words like 'apparently' LOLSee, on every forum, theres always the Internet Grammar Nazi. The guy who has no debating skills, beyond picking holes in the keyboarding. It is indeed the most pathetic way to try and look clever there is.........Many of us, I believe, visit for a little bit of a chat and light relief not to impress, trumpet play or inform everyone else how wonderful we are.