Topic: Any Sevilles yet -

[NattyEm]

the nicest shop bought marmalade (on a bit of a side note) I have found is the Defour fruit spread Orange and ginger.  It is yummy!  All the Defour spreads are made with fruit. No sugar at all.  Grape juice to sweeten it.

[tim]

Yes - daughter's onto those!

[Svea]

fair enough tim :)
hope you are successful.

emma, the dalfour jams used to be made with apple juice as sweetener (about 5 years ago?). this was suitable for people with type II diabetes (who control it through diet, like my dad).
i thought grape juice does not offer this - i am under the impression that grape contains sugars which are too quickly absorbed (dextrose?) and hence are not suitable for a diet controlled diabetes.

i am happy to learn otherwise though :)
svea

PS; they are super yummy jams though :)

[tim]

Does the grape juice negate an ordinary slimming diet??

[NattyEm]

I googled it and came up with this:

Fruit Concentrate/Sweetener
includes frozen juice concentrates such as grape or apple juice and refrigerated jars of fruit concentrates which are typically blends of juices such as peach, pear, and pineapple juice. Fruit concentrates are thicker than fruit juice concentrates and are made by cooking whole fruits at very low temperatures until they have been reduced to a thick syrup. Fruit sweeteners work well in most baked goods.
They are not much better then white or brown sugar !!!
If you are sick, avoid it !!!  1 %

complex carbohydrates
 90 - 96 % simple sugars, fructose, glucose, and sucrose
 

And on a different one:

Grapes, including purple grape juice, and red wine
 Flavonoids, (resveratrol, quercetin and catechin).
 
 Fight heart disease and cancer. May help lower the risk for asthma. May benefit people with diabetes
 although:
....Fructose (sugar molecule found in fruits). Fructose may produce a slower increase in blood sugar than sucrose, which may have some advantages for people with diabetes. Dark-colored fruits are rich in important vitamins and other nutrients, and studies continue to report their benefits for the heart and health in general. Other fruits, such as apples and grapes also have important food chemicals. (As with any sugar, however, excess use of fructose is associated with triglycerides and harmful cholesterol levels.).....

Though that was just two websites - so you should look a lot more before trusting it!
What a minefield it all is!
*she says munching on toast and strawberry Dalfour spread*

[tim]

Thanks, Em!!

[Svea]

...excess use of fructose is associated with triglycerides and harmful cholesterol levels....

and gives you the runs, too :D ;)

thanks em for the info. looks like the grape juice stuff is fine, after all.

[tim]

Well - the waiting's over - the job's done!!

Because the Sevilles were frozen, I added a fresh lemon & an ordinary orange. Forgot to add more sugar. Pressure cooked 15 min from thawed - not frozen as the book says - pre-heated the dissolved sugar, added the fruit  & cooked on to exactly 220F.
Couldn't find the jam funnel, so had real fun trying to fill the hot pots!! Glad I had bought one of those fireproof gloves.
Result? An acceptable set. Don't like it stiff. Cloudier than my ideal because, when cutting up the fruit I found that, unusually, the membranes had entirely dissolved, so all I put into 'the pip bag' were the pips

 Of course, 'the family' were here yesterday & we're left with only 10 jars. But I suppose that's what we're here for??

[NattyEm]

why cant they invent taste-o-website?

[Debs]

Now thats what I call achunky marmalade!

Looks yummy Tim.

BTW, my lemon MAMADE marmalade has a delish tangy taste.

Debs ;D

[Mrs Ava]

Oh Tim, looks devine!  Adore chunkiest marmalade on freshly made, warm, proper bread with plenty of butter!

I shall be around for afternoon tea, get the kettle on.  ;D