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Nigel,I am still trying to work out how a corrupt government and greedy bankers is an excuse for looting ,burning and taking the lives of others. ::)
I was bought up on a Inner city Birmingham council estate,we had little more than our roof and food to eat but we stepped out into life determined to make a good life for ourselves and we did.It would not have occurred to any of us to behave in such a way as this.The kids who think they have nothing nowadays have no idea how hard life can really be and they seem to want it all handed them on a plate............save me the Bleeding hearts. >:(
I still say bring the Army in,though thankfully it seems to have calmed down now.I am not suggesting the Army kill these people but have no objection to them being roughed up a bit.
QuoteIf we are to turn the Army out, turn them out to protect the Crown, and let the bankers and their political mates swing for the enormous amount of damage they are still doing to this Country! Then I'd settle for nothing less than heads on pikes at Traitor's Gate!Melbourne12:So you're very happy to see murder done in the furtherance of your own political ends, just not those of other people.'Nuff said.
If we are to turn the Army out, turn them out to protect the Crown, and let the bankers and their political mates swing for the enormous amount of damage they are still doing to this Country! Then I'd settle for nothing less than heads on pikes at Traitor's Gate!
My concern is for Democracy itself Melbourne12, not just which party to put into power. The Nation does that by a free and fair vote. Besides, this Country was born of revolution after revolution, fight after fight. Occasionally, we need to 'reset' the Democratic movement back to it's basic functions so the greedy and corrupt are either brought to justice or expelled to where they can no longer harm the Nation.
we only seem to get this kind of trouble when a conservative gov is in power
Quote from: jimtheworzel on August 09, 2011, 11:50:34we only seem to get this kind of trouble when a conservative gov is in powerPossibly because they are left with the miserable job of clearing up after the previous defunct labour administration. >:( >:(valmarg
The Nick Clegg thing - he burned a few cacti (one at a time) as a drunk teenager. His punishment was to repay the professor (owner of the collection) by doing hard graft in the baking sun and finding the best replacements they could, with his mother, driving all over the country to other specialist collections. If people can't see the difference then frankly they're a bit dim.You can dislike Nick Clegg for many things (I have a long list, in fact) but being a bit silly as a child, and losing all sense of social responsibility, looting, smashing stuff & fighting with the police are entirely different.
I thought he was 16? And Clegg doesn't have a criminal record. I didn't see that Clegg wants to jail the parents - and I'm a bit surprised to hear this...Finally, to help you see the difference:Case 1.Rioting, looting, hundreds of millions of pounds in damage, lives in danger, people killed, parents who are indifferent.Case 2.A few cacti in a family friend's greenhouse. Parents get involved & make you make amends.If you think these two cases are comparable, then yes, you are a bit dim, sorry. :-*
Quote from: OllieC on August 13, 2011, 17:27:53I thought he was 16? And Clegg doesn't have a criminal record. I didn't see that Clegg wants to jail the parents - and I'm a bit surprised to hear this...Finally, to help you see the difference:Case 1.Rioting, looting, hundreds of millions of pounds in damage, lives in danger, people killed, parents who are indifferent.Case 2.A few cacti in a family friend's greenhouse. Parents get involved & make you make amends.If you think these two cases are comparable, then yes, you are a bit dim, sorry. :-*You're probably right..... Fancy me comparing a young arsonist with a young arsonist..... ::)
Nigel, it's been bugging me this (my response to you) - I don't think you're "a bit dim" & it was an inappropriate choice of phrase. I was with a bunch of Lib Dems last night discussing, amongst other things, Nick Clegg and his plant burning days. A close friend & active Lib Dem told me I'm the one who's being a bit dim, so that's me told :-X
Oh well then thats all right then Nigel. >:(Lets loot,burn and kill because a few upper class idiots carried on the old tradition. :oI agree with you that the Mps who robbed the tax payer should have faced courtbut The Burlington antics were well publicised before the election and they still got in ...............
The reasons behind it Nigel are that thieves saw a great opportunity to grab what they want.They thought they could get away with it and saw no harm in burning and killing along the way.I don't think The Police should have to face that level of violence and I still think it was a job for the Army.