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qahtan

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Angelica
« on: January 31, 2011, 21:23:12 »
 Have you ever grown Angelica???
                       I ask because I did when I lived in UK,,, grew it in the green house, it grew like  it didn't know how to stop....... :) :)...... qahtan
« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 21:25:09 by qahtan »

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 21:39:49 »
We grew lovage... which is similar... huge and rampant...  :)

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 21:43:39 »
 Angelica is candied and used in cake decorating, what did you do with the lovage

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 22:24:16 »
I have got tinned of the stuff on my second plot. Don't know what to do with it? It looks pretty dormant at the moment, any ideas on cutting back/pruning etc? In the bed next to it I have hops growing all over the side of the shed!! Don't know anything about them either. :-*

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 22:25:32 »
Sorry tonnes of the stuff

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 00:16:40 »
qahtan I've grown angelica outside and it thrived (53º latitude at 1,000ft). Couldn't be bothered to process it so I gave it away to a chap who dug it up and transplanted it on his own plot, where it's continued to thrive.

admjh1 I use lovage leaves as a herb. Mild celery flavour if you pick the leaves young but bitter if you leave them to mature. Great added to e.g. white sauce or sprinkled over salads. If you get a liking for it you can chop and freeze them because it doesn't have a long season. It's a perennial so it'll come back in about March, so it won't do any harm to chop it down to ground level before new growth starts.

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 00:30:49 »
Angelica is candied and used in cake decorating, what did you do with the lovage

Lovage can be chopped up and added to things like chicken noodle soup?

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 06:18:55 »
I have a problem with Angelica because it seeds itself like mad.  It does look quite good when the flowers appear but unless they are cut off before the seeds ripen you get it growing all over the place.  I don't use it for anything, I just can't get rid of it!

I took this photo of a friend standing in front of a plant to give an idea of the size

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 10:18:34 »
I've grown it, just outside in a normal sunny border.  It still seeds itself occasionally but less as I am vigilant about the seeds and pulling out babies before they establish.  I didn't realise a greenhouse was thought necessary?

Anyway, I also used to crystallise the stems, but I gave it up after a few years, as we don't actually have much call for angelica in our house (just in the golden christmas cake I make).  It was a lot of palaver in the kitchen, plus enormous plants that are briefly very impressive but take up lots of space for limited long-term interest.  I have dahlias in the same spot now.

It's quite fun though and I did get a great sense of satisfaction producing my own crystallised fruit.  Mind you, it was a rather insipid grey-green without colouring.  It did taste of something, unlike the shop-bought, but we weren't sure the herby flavour added anything to the cake...
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Re: Angelica
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 10:20:41 »
I've had some seeds from a seed swop this year, my aim was to use with rhubarb to reduce the amount of sugar I use to sweeten it.
Another desperate measure to reduce middle aged spread! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 17:06:08 »
  It is never heard of over here,,,,,,
 but I only grew it in the greenhouse as I didn't know any better,,,,
 thanks for info about it, but I don't think I shall bother over here,,,
 though I did grow ginger in a great big flower pot downstairs,,, it grew , but then I forgot about it,, until one day I found I had a nice chunky root.
 so I dug that up and crystallized that...... qahtan.

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 17:31:20 »
Short of having a "firkle" how do you know if the ginger is ready?  :-\

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 17:37:28 »
   
                        firkle.     ? ???

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 18:15:43 »
A check in the compost with your fingers... usually to find the first new potatoes to see if they are worth digging out for a meal!!  :)

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 18:17:07 »
   Oh,,,,,, we don't grow spuds

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2011, 23:15:13 »
Quhtan,Rickters in Ontario sell it. Seeds and plants.



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Re: Angelica
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2011, 17:04:46 »
 yes, Otto Rickters would be where I would go If I wanted it,,, I did get my Bay Laurel from him about 20 plus years ago.....

         Thanks,                qahtan

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Re: Angelica
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 19:39:24 »
An Herb Society of America Fact Sheett
Angelliica
Angelica archangelica (angelica)
Angelica atropurpurea (American angelica, Purple
angelica, Alexanders)
Angelica polymorpha var. sinensis (Chinese angelica,
dong quai)
Angelica gigas (Korean angelica)
Angelicas are biennials or short-lived perennials belonging to the
Apiaceae (par s ley fami ly) , and are related to carrot, parsley, and
the aromatic seed plants dill, caraway, cumin, anise and fennel. The
species A. archangel ica, a biennial, originated in Northern and
Central Europe. The plant has an ancient history of use as a charm
against contagion, spells and enchantments and as a cure-all. Old pre-
Christian beliefs about its magical power have been absorbed into the
Christian context, including an association with some archangelic patronage,
hence its species name.
Description
Angelica forms a basal clump of large three-sectioned leaves, borne on
clasping leafstalks, which may be 2 to 3 feet tall in the first (sometimes also the second) year. In the second
(sometimes the third) year it will send up a tall bloom stalk, usually 4 to 6 feet but occasionally up to 10 feet
tall, creating a majestic appearance. The stalk is hollow, ribbed and 2 inches in diameter. At midsummer the
flowering parts of A. archangelica appear wrapped in a papery sheath, which opens to show tiny greenishwhite
flowers in large club-like heads (the umbels typical of the family) up to 6 inches across. The flowers
are followed by ribbed green seeds that turn brown as they ripen. All parts of the plant are fragrant, and the
flower nectar attracts bees. Angelica atropurpurea grows wild in North America from Newfoundland
to Delaware and West Virginia, Illinois to Wisconsin, preferring wet bottomlands and swamps. The stem base
is tinged with purple as its species name suggests. A. polymorpha var. sinensis grows to 2.5 to 5 feet and
is native to East Asia. A. gigas, which is marketed as Korean Angelica, is similar to A. archangel ica,
but is purple in all its parts.
Culture
Angelicas are propagated by the fresh seeds, which can be allowed to self-sow. Late summer sown seedlings
will make good root growth through much of the winter, as long as they do not dry out. They can be transplanted
only in the young seedling stage, and planted 3 feet apart on center. Angelica requires shade in the
hottest part of the day, and abundant water, although soil should also be well-drained. It prefers neutral to
slightly acid soil with plenty of organic matter. A. archangelica and A. atropurpurea are hardy to zone 4,
but A. polymorpha var. sinensis is only hardy to Zone 9.
Uses
Angelica was considered for centuries to be a powerful protective herb against evil spirits, witchcraft and disease,
including the plague. Parkinson, in the 17th century, considered it a major medicinal plant. Roots and
leaves are used as a digestive stimulant, and the root and rhizome of A. archangelica are approved by the
German Commission E for digestive disturbances including flatulence and mild gastrointestinal spasms.
American Angelica was widely used medicinally by North American Indians. The species most used in Chinese
Angelica archangelica
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herbal medicine is A. polymorpha var. sinensis, which is considered an impor tant tonic.
Some sources recommend against the use of medicinal angelica preparations during pregnancy.
Roots, stalks, leaves and flowers of A. archangelica are edible. The stalks are candied for confections and
cake decorations. Leaves are added to cooked fruit dishes, soups, stews, fish or poultry. The essential oil of
the root and seeds is used as a vanilla-like flavoring in commercial liqueurs, ice creams and candies.
Warnings! 1) Any of the angelicas may cause skin photosensitivity or dermatitis due to the presence of furanocoumarins.
2) They must be identified carefully in the wild because of resemblance to other members of
the family Apiaceae, which are poisonous, especially poison hemlock (Conium muculatum).
Bibliography
Blumenthal, Mark, ed. The Complete German Commission E Monographs: Therapeutic Guide to Herbal
Medicines. Austin, TX: American Botanical Council, 1998.
Bown, Deni. The Herb Society of America New Encyclopedia of Herbs & Their Uses. New York: DK, 2001.
Brickell, Christopher and Judith D. Zuk, eds. The American Horticultural Society A-Z Encyclopedia of Garden
Plants. New York: DK, 1997.
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Since we are not medical practitioners, it is the policy of The Herb Society of America not to advise, recommend,
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Re: Angelica
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 19:39:57 »
   
                        firkle.     ? ???

         qahtan

I think the Derbyshire firkle is what we in Staffordshire call a furtle. ;D

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