Author Topic: Banned from allotment (Read 12157 times)

shirlton · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:24:36 »

If it were me then I would just leave and let them get on with it. I would find it too stressful to be around people like that. As for listening to them preaching from the pulpit I would go loaded with me own grown tomatoes

cornykev · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2011, 15:39:44 »

You and me both Shirl and throw in a few rotten cabbages. ;D ;D ;D

Unwashed · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2011, 19:23:50 »

Quote from: sunloving on January 18, 2011, 08:26:28

But it sounds like these people are more concerned about you obeying thier power than running the allotments fairly and all to often in situations like this where ignorant people have power , fighting their judgement will make them act even more despotic and even if you win the day they will find every opportunity to harrange you in the future. So consider your future really well have a look around at other sites and have a plan b. Not all allotment sites are run by power mad emotional morons and maybe finding a new site would make your time on the plot much less stressful.

That is the post of the century! It's so true.

daitheplant · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2011, 20:54:39 »

I completely and utterly disagree with sunlovers advice to find another site. If you do that, no matter what the outcome of this current dispute, you will have let them win. Stick to your guns, it`s the world against this a******e warden and his puppet vicar. YOU ARE RIGHT. :)

rugbypost · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2011, 21:11:31 »

First i am very sorry for all the hard work you have done for no reward, You have helped and been shat from above big time. Let the local do a story on it may be they are looking to put out line planing permision on it in the near future. Please dont let them get you down dont know a lot about allotment law but you have the support of a lot of friends on here

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2011, 22:15:43 »

If you don't fight these bullies they feel encouraged, and go and treat someone else even worse. It's probably got to this point because nobody stopped it earlier. If you let them do it they could destroy the whole site. I've seen churches closed as a result of people like that.

flytrapman · « **Reply #26 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:08:08 »

Whilst I agree with sunlover that some people will not be happy and I did not want the hassle I have no intention of crumbling and intend to fight
I have now been told the environmental officer from the council told the church if they did not take action against me he would take action against the church
A guy who delivered some wood for raised beds has now been told he is being investigated for illegally depositing waste and having no waste carriers licence- Although I have written confirmation from the Environment Agency that it is ok to deliver items for reuse
Senior members of the church have told me the new warden has caused more trouble in the 5 years he has been at our church than the chuch has had in over 100 years and had to leave his old church for causing trouble
I was at the allotment on Monday and am still using it
Thanks for your advice and concerns

Ellen K · « **Reply #27 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:14:49 »

FTM you have our best wishes.

Right now on TV all we see are council workers bleating about cuts and how the public will suffer through loss of their services. But some much of the councils energies seem to go on crap like this, whether malicious or just plain incompeteny. I for one find it hard to be sympathetic to their cause.

Ellen K · « **Reply #28 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:39:51 »

^^ sorry for my rant, it is just that our money is funding this persecution. If only you were a black lesbian single mother FTM.

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #29 on:** January 19, 2011, 16:44:21 »

If others confirm that the warden has a record of troublemaking, that definitely calls for a complaint to C or E officialdom. See if you can get him kicked out again!

Unwashed · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2011, 19:26:50 »

Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on January 19, 2011, 16:44:21

If others confirm that the warden has a record of troublemaking, that definitely calls for a complaint to C or E officialdom. See if you can get him kicked out again!

Bell, book and candle. ;)

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2011, 23:29:41 »

The Cardinal rose with a dignified look,
He call'd for his candle, his bell and his book!
In holy anger and pious grief,
He solemnly cursed that rascally thief!
He cursed him at board, he cursed him in bed;
From the sole of his foot to the crown of his head;
He cursed him in sleeping, that every night
He should dream of the devil and wake in a fright;
He cursed him in eating, he cursed him in drinking,
He cursed him in coughing, in sneezing, in winking;
He cursed him in sitting, in standing, in lying;
He cursed him in walking, in riding, in flying,
He cursed him in living, he cursed him in dying!--
Never was heard such a terrible curse!
But what gave rise
To no little surprise,
Nobody seem'd one penny the worse!

Unwashed · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:00:15 »

No surprise then that jackdaws are one of my favourite birds!

shirlton · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:04:19 »

telboy · « **Reply #34 on:** January 21, 2011, 20:29:32 »

flytrapman,
I have read some awful stories regarding our 'religeous' fellow beings but your breeze beats them all.
You say the allotment land is owned by the Church.
I smell a rat. Our village had a vicar some years ago who tried & failed to get building permission on church land due to dangerous access. He was entitled to do this as this was part of a vicars living.

I suspect there's an agenda here! Our own village allotments are owned by the Church Warden(only one) and we are extremely fortunate as we all get on like a house on fire.
The Church Warden, in your case, needs sorting out. Go through the appropriate channels whilst checking the town/borough/ planning applications.
Good luck & keep us all informed!!

pigeonseed · « **Reply #35 on:** January 21, 2011, 20:48:54 »

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^^ sorry for my rant, it is just that our money is funding this persecution. If only you were a black lesbian single mother FTM.

You want to cut back on the Daily Mail a bit denbyvisitor! ;D It's not a council site and there's been no mention of minorities for you get hot and bothered about. (Although of course you have no idea how many of us might be black, lesbian or single mothers so you'd better be careful about what you say ;))

Good luck with it, Flytrapman. Sounds like you just need to be patient and wait for it all to finally be sorted. I wonder what's wrong with that man, making so much trouble everywhere he goes.

flytrapman · « **Reply #36 on:** January 21, 2011, 21:43:10 »

Thanks for the responses
The land was left to the church for the growing of fruit and veg by local people so it cannot be sold for building
The church do nothing towards the upkeep of the plots
We do not have any commitee and had no problems until the church appointed a new warden
I did not take any offence to denbyvisitors post and actually I am mixed race but it has not helped me
I have had a load of woodchip delivered today and will be on the plots this weekend
I guess nothing will happen until the deadline expires (16/2/11) but im going knowwhere
The principal officer of the environmental officers from the council told me they normally deal with dog fouling so I guess dog crap is their specialist subject

Digeroo · « **Reply #37 on:** January 21, 2011, 22:22:52 »

My suggestion is to get a look at the original will that left the money. I am not sure I understand why the churchwarden feel he controls the situation.

I would say it is onwards and upwards. The C of E church is not a dictatorship it is run by a parochial church council and finally up to the Synod. The Queen actually is the head of the C of E and she has an 'allotment'.

Unwashed · « **Reply #38 on:** January 21, 2011, 22:52:18 »

FTM, can you post the letter from the church as it might suggest a few obvious ways to defeat this nonsense, and it always helps you stand your ground when you're confident of your rights.

flytrapman · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2011, 22:52:09 »

I have asked the main vicar for details of the covenant and other information including details of any complaints against me but he refused to discuss it
I intend to make representations to his seniors which I think is the Arch Deacon
Unwashed I have tried to post the letter without success and have sent you a pm
There are 2 new church wardens who replaced the old wardens. One of them appears to have ruffled feathers and wants to change a lot of things and Ive not heard anyone say a good thing about him yet, however as I go to a service at a different time to him when I attend church I have never met him

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Author Topic: Banned from allotment (Read 12157 times)