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Hi Unwashed, I do believe that it is s127 of LGA that was quoted last night. As far as I know the following applies. Don’t think a trust has been created.An allotment society has been formed, the PC are allowing £9,000 to cover the costs for the re-provision of water supply, connection of stand pipes and fencing, subject to them controlling the expenditure. It is PC land.The council will enter into a lease agreement with the Allotments Society for a term of ?? years and instruct its solicitor to draw up the agreement. The agreement includes:a. Terms of the tenancy agreement.b. Responsibility for service connection and running costs (Society)c. Responsibility for fencing and gates (Society)d. Responsibility for tenancy claims and liability (Society)e. Landlords Insurance coverage and Liabilityf. Tenants Insurance coverage and Liabilityg. Council to receive all Financial Reports annuallyh. Council to receive the Auditors Report annuallyi. Dispute resolution process between Council and Society and Society and members.j. Ban the keeping of beesk. Ban the planting of trees, except in pots.The Council to set an annual rent of the site at £250 pa.I assume that the lease agreement is what the PC wants to go with. As for terms what is to stop them after seven years deciding that the land is more valuable for development? Would there be safeguards for the Allotment Society, as I said I am a novice but this is the third time that villagers have tried for allotments and this time it looks like it could succeed. I do not know whether the society has joined any organization, but I think it may have. Any advice would be more than welcome including pitfalls.
With regard to the lease length, S127 does apply, BUT a set of General Consents existing, enacted in 1998 and more recently explained in great detail in Circular 06/03 that remove the need to refer to the Secretary of State in all cases where the sums are less than £2 Million. There are a number of other exeptions as well. The Local Authority has the power to grant these leases of any length without reference to anyone else.
The lease is between the Council and the Trustees of the Society. Are you saying this is not legal? The Society is based on the NSALG draft constitution for Associations.
I have copies of at leases and constitustions from at least 25 other Societies in the area and they ALL elect officials using the NSALG contitustion and they ALL lease land from the Local Authority. If you research further on the Internet there are a huge number of Societys who publish their Constitution and Lease and they are virtually all the same. There is no way it cannot be legal, if it is then all the various solicitors who have drawn up the leases have acted illegally!!
I just wanted to clear this up as some of the information given is inaccurate and that can be very dangerous when a lot of councils are trying anything they can to shirk their responsibilites to provide allotments!!
Hi Snoopy,No he is not, however he has said himself that he is classed as a Vexatious complainant by his council, read some of the other topics.I have always found in all walks of life its best to deal with people in a reasonable and nonconfrontational manner to get the best results for both sides.Vegwise
I have always found in all walks of life its best to deal with people in a reasonable and nonconfrontational manner to get the best results for both sides.
however he has said himself that he is classed as a Vexatious complainant by his council
We do not find him vexatious.