Thank you for the offer of seeds Hector but I ordered the seeds a few days ago and they are on there way as we speak.They are from Territorial seed in the US, there is a picture of them harvested and they do look just the size of a regular carrot although I believe the main function is leaves. I have Cylindra is in the ground already so am hoping Mr Rat leaves that one alone. The foliage does not look like carrots Vinlander, the shape of the beet does!!