About right that Baccy Man, dont you just like it when the council get put straight, I feel sorry for those in maisonettes or flats though, I got a lot of help from the guys on the ukworkshop forums on my problem, the local council soon got put straight and they did not like it. mind you I only asked for a shed, they threw the area of outstanding natural beauty argument at me, I took photos of the local council estate, the 40 or so building sites on other peoples properties as they put up new homes, garages and other assorted items and asked the council if they could provide my local MP G.Young with their arguments, they soon gave in.