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I realise it's no good for this year's planting, but have you considered using the old 'show' technique of encouraging offsets on the flower head?You simply let the leek bolt (don't use any leek that bolts early) and cut off all the individual flowers as they extend far enough to get some nail scissors in there.Within a week or so tiny offsets will start to appear - some of them can grow to 2 or 3mm across before they start to separate themselves. By this time they will already have roots appearing as well as strong leaves around 50mm long.I'd guess that any offset 2mm or more across will have more stored energy than a seed - they certainly grow quickly and given the same care they do seem to grow considerably larger than similarly treated seed.Easier too - very few losses, no thinning, visible plants from day 1 so easier hoeing etc. etc.You may regard this a cheating - thicker leeks simply by growing bigger leeks - but provided they are earthed up enough a bigger leek is a bigger meal.Cheers.
What is offsets do you mean the grass or the pip
What you call offsets we call grass and at the root off the grass you also get what we call pips
Quote from: davyw1 on February 18, 2010, 19:57:55What you call offsets we call grass and at the root off the grass you also get what we call pipsSo you're a regular at this? for shows or just (like me) because seeds are more work for smaller leeks?
It may be because I grow in the SE, but I find that a bit of protection in winter is enough to keep offsets going (lots of spare room in the cold greenhouse this time of year). I find seeds sown Jan-Feb a lot more likely to not come up without heat, and even then they give up the ghost in the same conditions - it's almost like they expect to be born into good conditions and just give up.I could try sowing them in late Autumn - but that's a busy time and makes for 3 month's extra coddling.Cheers.A couple of pictures would be nice for comparison.PS. I had a lot of similar offsets from my hardneck garlic this year and some of them looked a bit dodgy so I just dumped them onto my capillary matting system to let them grow or fail. They are all growing well and the roots don't seem to penetrate the landscape fabric cover so it is fairly easy to lift them and pot them - this is the easiest system yet.
A couple of pictures would be nice for comparison.
I think for any gardener it is much easier just to throw a few seeds into a plant pot than it is to take grass/offsets as with these you have to take off every bit of leaf to the main stem which is time consuming, Davy