Looking them up, I read that Joan J are an improved Autumn Bliss. I have 2 thick rows of Autumn Bliss that I have been very pleased with until noticing a plot with THE MOST GIGANTIC raspberries about 10 days ago. I stole 2 to taste....saw a label saying Joan J. I want them!
Another neighbour has Glen Ample, again bigger than mine - although they are a summer variety, she gave me some wonderful berries early in October, huge and delicious.
I also have Fall Gold which are yellow, big, and very good. I am afraid my Autumn Bliss are doomed.