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Bocking Bill, i do not know the secret of long stems have only grown sweetpeas for the first time this year. I did give the ground a good dressing of dried blood before i planted them out and have kept the tendrils cut off the plants , i believe this helps get a longer stem.Jordsbabe you are to late now to plant seeds now , I planted mine in late October in the greenhouse and then when they were about 4" high i put them outside in there pots to stand the winter. I found that it did pay to put a net over them as the birds love to peck at them.Hope this as been of some use to you, but as i said I am only a beginner with them myself.