Topic: Don't know what I've bought!!!

[Biscombe]

Stocked up on soft fruit canes on friday, got 3 tayberry already, newly planted are 1 redcurrant 2 raspberry and 2 zarza mora sin espina!! well...not got a clue what the later are! and can't find and info on the web!

Here's a rough translation of the words, will post a photo later! the guy in the garden centre assures me that It produces soft fruit!!

zarza = Bramble
mora = Moor
sin espina = without thorn

any idea what I've bought!  ::)

[Baccy Man]

You need a better translator.

zarza = bush
mora = blackberry
sin espina = without spines

So zarza mora sin espina = thornless blackberry.

[Biscombe]

Brilliant!!!!! ;D ;D

[Trixiebelle]

You've bought a bald blackberry  ;D

[PAULW]

zarza mora sin espina!

bramble dwells without thorn!

http://www2.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

[Tee Gee]

Just to add a bit to baccymans answer.

I guess your fruit originated from around Blairgowrie in Scotland i.e.  on the banks of the river Tay, hence Tayberry.

Plus a blackberry is called a bramble in Scotland.

Thats the best interpretation I can give

[Baccy Man]

zarza mora sin espina!

bramble dwells without thorn!

http://www2.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

The problem with translation software is that it makes you look like "el pelotudo más grande en el mundo" if you actually use the phrases it tells you are right. They don't allow for words with multiple meanings or regional variations & half the time they put the words in the wrong order, then of course there is all the words they don't know which don't get translated leaving you to guess at the meanings.
The only way to translate things properly is to learn the language.
Mora could of been translated as moor because the original meaning was moorish woman (a black woman) it can also mean dwell/reside or arrears.
zarza can mean bush, bramble or briar
sin espina can mean without spines or without thorns.

My translation above should of read thornless blackberry bush not just thornless blackberry.

[star]

Blimey baccy man........you can cook, you can translate..........is there anything you cant do??

You'd be quite a catch ;D

[Amazin]

Biscombe, going by Kevin Costner's version of Robin Hood, I think you might just have bought Morgan Freeman.

 ;D

[Biscombe]

heheheh!!! great! like him!  ;D

[djbrenton]

It would help if they printed it as zarzamora ( bramble) rather than two words (moorish bush). It's one of the words I randomly remember from Ibanez's works.

[saddad]

Can you translate Jostaberry into spanish though....
 ???

[djbrenton]

Yes, jostaberry in Spanish is 'fruta overatado'

or in French 'fruit tres ordinaire'

and in olde english it's ' frute of flaveur inderterminate'  ;D

[Biscombe]

I'm impressed!!  ;D

[Froglegs]

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Plus a blackberry is called a bramble in Scotland.

And in Nottingham....well I've allways called them that. :)

[Baccy Man]

Blimey baccy man........you can cook, you can translate..........is there anything you cant do??

My wife informs me I can't keep the house tidy although I think she has impossibly high standards.

Can you translate Jostaberry into spanish though....
 ???

There is no Spanish word for jostaberry you wold have to use the latin. Something tells me djbrenton is not that impressed by jostaberries.

[ruud]

In dutch a bramble is called braam,thornless is in dutch doornloos,so you bought a doornloose braam,we got a lot of wild brambles here in the dunes,they have thorns i can tell you that out of experiance,as a kid we harvest them.My mother made marmelade from it and bramblejuice.

[Rob08]

No bramble in South Africa and, Saints be praised, no stinging nettles either...

Downside was, even if you wanted to grow soft fruits, it was not possible in most parts of the country as summer temperatures are too high.  Even the apples, pears, etc are grown up in the mountains (Koue Bokkeveld and surrounds).