ok thanks for that advice. Yesterday I didn't want to keep them in my car boot! so I took them to the lottie, put them in one of my big clear plastic delivery bags and covered the roots with sand to stop them getting tired out. I will get down there tomorrow and plant them out. I suppose it is one of those situations where, if it doesn't work, there is no regret because they would have just been binned anyway (I love roses so really I am thrilled to have them, even though I don't have that much space for them). I will send pics :D