thanks manic, it went well with the bottles, just bought some organic chippings that are a very absorbent,and are supposed to dry the slugs out, put it around my brassicas in one complete barrier big circle, tested it with 2 slugs, small, an inch or so long, the first dried up, the second got through,another waste of money,anyone having success with these "chippings", maybe a wider barrier will work. Probarbly no good in the rain.