Topic: Unidentified shrub #2

[sweet-pea]

Any ideas on this one?  It's a vigorous climber, twinning I think, and haven't noticed any flowers on it.

[MattyJC]

My first thoughts are evergreen honeysuckle. Though my memory isnt what it used to be!

Regards

Matt

[sweet-pea]

Thanks again Matt, The leaves did remind me of honesuckle too, but I wasn't sure because I've never seen any flowers on it.  But I guess maybe it's not in the mood for flowering!

[Mrs Ava]

Certain a honeysuckle.

[ACE]

clematis armandii

[machman5]

Ooh, changed my mind about #1 now, this looks more like my honeysuckle.  I get 2 different types of leaves on it though, these long ones on the runners and a short, more shapely one on the woody stems, just like your pic in no.1!  This time of the year it has litlle dried up black berries on it too, these will be on the woody clumps not on the long runners. ???

[Deb P]

I'm with Ace, I think it's Clematis Armandii ???

[Slug_killer]

What do the underside of the leave look like, and what is the texture of the leaf. Also can we have a pic of the whole plant.   

Is the stem hairy or prickly ? Both honeysuckle and clematis have smooth stems.

The leaf shape is correct for a clematis armandii - but armadii leaves are thin and soft, also the stems are green, these leaves look thick and rough.

It doesn't look so much a climber, but more of a twinner. Is it grabbing hold of anything to gain height (a climber, ie clematis), or just leaning against something, weaving in and out (a twinner, ie honeysuckle, jasmine)?


PS you've got some champion moss there !