i was watching them harder after your replies and noticed that they were as big as barn owls sitting in the bush waiting for their turn at the feeder, then once they were feeding they had slimmed down again.
mind you it was cold enough to freeze the wotits off a wotsit today so i shouldn't have been surprised if they all had hats and scarves on too !
lots of activity today despite the damp and dreary conditions, which is always a joy to watch.
thanks for the tip