Gloat gloat....got 8, ;D all planted and supported and all about 3 foot high. ;D ;D Tis a miracle you hear, I am rubbish at sunflowers usually, and it could all still go pair shaped! Last year, got a couple that my sis grew, supported them nicely, then, went on holiday for a week...came home, to find said sunflwers face down on the ground cut clean in 2 by my nice string ties! :'( I is a killer queen!!! :'(