Topic: Seed Sharing Circle 2015 and growing progress

[Jayb]

HSL supply seed to our local seed swap sometimes seeds I can't find in their catalogue, the swap is February so if there's anything wierd and wonderful I'll let you know. Here's to the new season!

Brilliant 

[Jayb]

Am with galina, they all sound good. Though I still have about 300 Potimarron seeds floating about here... 

If I get enough I might be able to add in Lazy Housewife climbing beans.

It's now nail-biting to see what happens first - stuff ripening or frost!

I thought you might have plenty left, 

I know I've all my dwarf beans still out, I'm really hoping they get a move on!

[Jayb]

But I do hope there will be another seed circle next year, they are really great both for sharing favourites and for experiencing new varieties that I would not have come across without the circle.  I know I don't always mention every success and a contributor may wonder whether anybody actually grows their seeds.  Well just at the moment the leeks are looking good and the celeriac is swelling nicely along with many other items.  The seed share is very much appreciated.   Thankyou Jayb and everybody   

Me too 

My celeriac have rallied after being hammered so badly by aphids earlier in the year, but sadly they are not very big, probably about fist size at the moment

[Robert_Brenchley]

I'll see what I can get regarding perennial alliums. I could put elephant garlic seed in this year if anyone's interested. Once I can multiply them up I should have potato onions, maybe shallotts. I've got several varieties of topsetting onion, so again, once I've multiplied them up I should have bulbils.

[Jayb]

All sounds good Robert and the Babbington's/Elephant garlic for this year.

The Potato onions I grew from seed this year have done well, I'm looking forward to selecting and growing them on next year. I'd love to save seed next year too, good to have an even more diverse pool to dip into :) 

[galina]

Me too 

My celeriac have rallied after being hammered so badly by aphids earlier in the year, but sadly they are not very big, probably about fist size at the moment

Give them time and with moister conditions now, they are bound to come good and get larger.  They are still doing a bit of growing now.  It is recommended to remove the lowest leaves, not entirely sure why though.   

[Jayb]

I do remove the leaves as they become horizontal, like you not entirely sure why it encourages larger bulbs. I had thought the more shoots it has to make on top they then end up as the edible stem/root we eat?

[Jayb]

Harvesting squash. Lower Salmon River

[Jayb]

Japanese

[galina]

Hi Jayb the seed was from HSL I've done a brief search but as yet a bit of a blank , will try again. As they are stuffing or salsa might be best, there are plenty of seeds. They are just so pepper like in touch and form and apart from the seeds at the top as in peppers are hollow.

Been through my old catalogues and can't find Vince.  But your description sounds good, who needs HSL's description?  Would have been nice for some origin information, but not knowing makes no difference to growing.  And Vince sounds quite different and unusual.    

Party finger food?  stuffed Vince tomato, Vince mini prawn cocktails, Vince with egg mayo and an olive on top?  And if the seeds are so easy to locate and remove that must be a good sauce tomato too. 

[markfield rover]

Morning Galina, I've emailed HSL  if I hear back I'll let you know, I have also asked Jeannine so fingers crossed, it sure is a mystery this one! It also feels hollow although there are seeds but again clustered at the top! I've got some seeds for the circle but there will be more .

[galina]

Morning Galina, I've emailed HSL  if I hear back I'll let you know, I have also asked Jeannine so fingers crossed, it sure is a mystery this one! It also feels hollow although there are seeds but again clustered at the top! I've got some seeds for the circle but there will be more .

Jeannine nailed it - it is called Vincent - and Tatiana's tomato base has it listed together with photos:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Vincent

 

PS:  this sort of thing happens often.  A plant name acquires an abbreviation, a pet name or a misspelled name and all of a sudden, the origin is lost.  But from your description, I think we've traced it.  Could you please confirm MR?

[markfield rover]

Galina, yep that's it!! I have the seed packet from HSL and it clearly says vince, oh well . Still an interesting tom and I would grow it again as a stuffer. Thanks everyone .

[galina]

Galina, yep that's it!! I have the seed packet from HSL and it clearly says vince, oh well . Still an interesting tom and I would grow it again as a stuffer. Thanks everyone .

And I am sure they would appreciate a follow up email with our findings to update their records.   

[markfield rover]

Good idea!

[galina]

According to the Tomato Atlas
http://www.tomaten-atlas.de/index.php?p=detailansicht&id=2474

an alternative name listed is Jaune (de) St Vincent.

Available in France under that name, for example from Ferme Ste Marthe, which also supplies heritage and unusual varieties to the Organic Catalogue (which is allied with HDRA/GO).  This may explain why you got the seeds from an HSL  seed swap and in an HSL seed envelope perhaps.  But it does not explain the change of name of course.
http://www.fermedesaintemarthe.com/A-1497-tomate-jaune-saint-vincent-ab.aspx

Possibly a French heirloom tomato.

[Jayb]

Good deducting, it does sound like it is the same variety, but it would be good to have HSL confirm it, particularly as we don't know the history of 'Vince'

[galina]

Good deducting, it does sound like it is the same variety, but it would be good to have HSL confirm it, particularly as we don't know the history of 'Vince'

Indeed, let's hope MR gets an answer soon 

[markfield rover]

I have emailed HSL and asked if they can shed any light on this as I want to be sure of anything I add to the circle. Thanks you all I do learn so much and I still think every seed is a little miracle so precious.

[markfield rover]

I've had a reply from HSL .... The description is that of Vincent....but their source was from John Yeoman -The Village Guild- when it wound up in 2005 and called Vince. They stand by Vince , so when I label these for the circle I will put Vince its stage name and Vincent in brackets does this sound okay? It is an interesting tom. Hope I haven't confused too much!