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« on: February 02, 2011, 10:52:43 »


Not too sure on which way to go on this one and as such we seeking advice.

We are a newly created allotment society who operate on land owned by a large company.

Legally, is it down to us to arrange this insurance or is it down to the company?

Many thanks for any advice
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 11:54:17 »

Have you asked them?
NSALG membership gives you a good deal on PLI...  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 12:02:27 »

Have you asked them?
NSALG membership gives you a good deal on PLI...  Lips Sealed

Thanks for the quick reply. We are also asking the company today Saddad but I thought that it might be a good idea to sound out people on this board for an unbiased opinion. We have received a quote from NSALG and as you say it is a reasonable deal. However, if it isn't our responsibility then I don't particularly want to pay.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 12:02:52 »

Occupier's Liability Act 1957 and 1984 says that the occupier owes the duty of care, so if the society is leasing the site then that almost certainly makes the society the occupier, though if you are managing the site under licence and the plot tenants' landlord is actually the company it's not so clear, but it's probably still you, though it would depend on the licence.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 12:04:46 »

Occupier's Liability Act 1984 says that the occupier owes the duty of care, so if the society is leasing the site then that almost certainly makes the society the occupier, though if you are managing the site under licence and the plot tenants' landlord is actually the company it's not so clear, but it's probably still you, though it would depend on the licence.

Thanks Unwashed.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 13:19:53 »

Agree. As far as I'm concerned, it's an essential - and not that expensive through NASLG - so get it for yourselves and at least you know you've got it.

And if you do anything as a Society outside the site - plant sales, school fairs, even a publicity event - then you'll need it. (And the organisers should ask to see a certificate and may need it displayed.)

And we've got employer's liability as well, to cover working parties and other communal activities. If you're on a new site, there'll be plenty of that, so get cover for it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 17:47:14 »

Agree. As far as I'm concerned, it's an essential - and not that expensive through NASLG - so get it for yourselves and at least you know you've got it.

And if you do anything as a Society outside the site - plant sales, school fairs, even a publicity event - then you'll need it. (And the organisers should ask to see a certificate and may need it displayed.)

And we've got employer's liability as well, to cover working parties and other communal activities. If you're on a new site, there'll be plenty of that, so get cover for it.


good post, and I agree about the employers liability as well
our association has both
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 11:01:15 »

Thanks for all of the sound advice.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 11:12:53 »

If you're ever doing demonstrations of gardening equipment off site then the Vintage Horticultural and Garden Machinery membership includes PLI providing they follow BAVCC code of practice....
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 16:30:57 »

Senex has had a heads up about Dan's policy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 17:49:53 »

we've just taken ours out with NSALG, 76.50 for 5,000,000 public and product liability, just in case the club's isn't any good  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 19:04:27 »

Senex has had a heads up about Dan's policy.
Thank you Ceres.  My appologies for any offence Senex. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 16:49:49 »

Should we be putting a copy of the certificate on show on the notice board at the allotment?
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 17:35:18 »

we have  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 19:56:04 »

There's no requirement to do it, but I can't see it would do any harm.
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 22:53:14 »

there is a requirement!
certificates of insurance must be displayed at all premises ( sites) where the insured carries out its business. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2011, 06:12:55 »

there is a requirement!
certificates of insurance must be displayed at all premises ( sites) where the insured carries out its business. Wink
Isn't that for emloyer's liability insurance?  I can't see that an allotment society is a business is it?
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2011, 07:17:50 »

A copy of the employers liability insurance must be displayed at the premises insured - nothing to do whether you're a business or not.

And if you take part in any activity off the premises - plant sales at school fetes, for example - a copy of the public liability insurance must be displayed (and given to the organiser).
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2011, 07:47:05 »

Thanks A4A members yet again- I did not know that- so it will be up by the end of the day! Wink
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2011, 09:18:28 »

Many thanks for the answers
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