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Hector

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Nine star cauliflower
« on: April 21, 2016, 22:54:51 »
To those lucky folks that have this......how close together go you plant and what sort of spread do you get?
Jackie

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 05:23:56 »
could you repeat the question proper English.
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how close together go you plant and what sort of spread do you get?

the above quoted sentence makes zero sense.

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 06:24:16 »
It makes great sense to me. I can't answer your question bow how far they spread and how close you plant them is  a good question
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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 07:59:11 »
That would be hard to do rollingrock, as I'm not English.

Thanks Jeannine, yes it is an enquiry regards:
the spread of each plant ( to determine row distance/ distance from other plants).
 And the  space between plants in rows.
Jackie

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 09:30:49 »
15" - 18" both ways should suffice!

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 09:32:34 »
Many thanks Teegee :)
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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 11:50:54 »
That would be hard to do rollingrock, as I'm not English.


rollingrock isn't English either, I don't think .............
I understood your question perfectly, just didn't know the answer.  TeeGee to the rescue, thank you.  :sunny:

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2016, 18:51:36 »
hector being English and writing English are  two different things.

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2016, 20:07:48 »
rollingrock, thank you for that. I think perhaps it's good to reflect and consider that life is full of people with different literacy skills.

I think it best to leave this discussion to plant considerations.

Thanks to all of those who gave plant advice.
Jackie

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2016, 21:22:34 »
Hi. Wouldn't want to disagree, but one website that has them for sale suggests 3 feet apart. They are effectively multi-headed mini cauliflowers so 18" would probably be a bit cramped. I'm not an expert with them, and I only have one plant at the moment, so it can have all the room it wants. They should get bigger year on year if you let them. The aforementioned website mentioned one plant that produced 39 heads. If you want to match that, 3 feet sounds good.

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2016, 13:52:03 »
Winecap, thanks. There are quite a few variations on advice out there. I'm going to provide maximum space I can and put in two individual rows versus a lock of five.
Jackie

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2016, 15:53:21 »
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Wouldn't want to disagree, but one website that has them for sale suggests 3 feet apart. They are effectively multi-headed mini cauliflowers so 18" would probably be a bit cramped.

I wouldn't disagree either I saw the same advice but then again there is a lot of ambiguous information out there on the WWW

I recall when I started growing brassicas around forty years ago the advice was plant out 2-3 ft apart, then you would see further advice later in the season to stake your brassicas, in particular tall growing crops such as sprouts.

Then a few years later when people started using narrow or raised beds the pundits would say to plant your brassicas " a bit" closer but I can't recall anyone defining the term " a bit" There reasoning was because you were using narrow beds you could access your plants with out standing on the beds.

I experimented over the year ( no WWW then) to find out what a " bit" was and it was then I came to the conclusion of 15" to 18" apart.

What I found that taller plants supported each other so no need for stakes, although sometimes the plants on the edge of the bed sometimes needed some support.

Then I found that it was always better to grow F1 hybrids and these usually grew as it said on the packet, so this made  size selection much easier.

Something I did notice though was that very few experts advised you to plant in the sunniest spot on the plot as brassicas love the sunshine on their what is effectively their "solar panel" leaves. I found this out the hard way due to my rotation programme as I have one bed on my plot that gets less sunshine than the others. One year when my rotation programme made me use that bed my plants and subsequently cropping was very poor.

Now to Nine Star Cauli!

I see these more as a Calabrese rather than a cauli and as such behave a bit differently from a true single headed cauli.

I grow my Calabrese at 15" centres and they can grow quite tall depending upon the variety I grow.
 
At cropping time I find I get a good sized cauli like head then when this is removed I get smaller tight heads, as opposed to the open headed spears of the broccolis, in effect they are not much different from the heads produced by the 'Nine Star' cauli variety.

So to conclude: I am not suggesting that other people are wrong in growing at centres up to 3ft in diameter, this is entirely up to the grower, but from my experience 15"-18" works for me and the type of soil and growing methods I use.

Perhaps you could try a few plants at different centres and see how you go on.

This is how I experimented in the past, but then I didn't have the internet to call on, in those days if I wanted to alter my methods I would have to wait till the next growing season to try something new.

Even this had its drawbacks particularly if the season was quite different from the previous season in terms of sunshine & rainfall.

Even to this day at the end of the season when I am about to purchase my seeds for the next year I ask myself questions like: did the variety I grow this year work well for me? should I grow it again? did I do something wrong? then when I have answered these questions I tick the box for the seeds I want to buy!

If I want to try something new I tend to grow about 60-80% of my total needs using my tried and trusted variety, and the remainder with the new variety.

This way I get a true comparison because the old and new varieties have been grown under identical conditions unlike the past, when I waited another year to apply my changes.

Add to that I can now read how other growers up and down the country (and even abroad) are performing so I can compare notes or indeed change my whole method of growing if I thought it was needed!

So yes the WWW can be ambiguous but it can also be very useful indeed!

Sorry for the length of the article but I felt I had to put in my reasons for the answer I gave earlier on in the thread.

After forty odd years of gardening my motto is:

Due to the resilience of plants there is no wrong way to garden, and for the same reason there 'are no bad gardeners' but there are 'better gardeners' and these usually have years of experience behind them.



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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2016, 16:08:33 »
I am thinking of planting at 24 inch spacing for three plants , based on that will fit into a nice sunny spot. The other two I'll plant  with 36 inch :)

The web is a super thing but wealth of variation.

I'm looking forward to growing this one and will be ensuring pigeon and caterpillar population won't get a good feed.
Jackie

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2016, 09:31:55 »
Interesting to read the different ideas and spacings. I have my plants at 24" (sown last year) and from the looks they are just starting to make heads. I've sown more this year and I may use a couple of suggested spacings when I plant them out.
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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2016, 20:11:20 »
They can grow into big plants, but brassicas will adjust their size to the space available. I'd plant 2-2 1/2 feet apart.

The OP is perfectly comprehensible; it's far from being the first time I've seen a typo!

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Re: Nine star cauliflower
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2016, 12:05:51 »
Thanks Robert. It's looking like the space available is 24-26 minimum spacing.

I've also space for a single plant to have 36 inch space....so will be interested to see the difference :)
Delighted to be growing this.
Jackie

 

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